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    Monday, November 13

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    Armadillo: Monday's six-pack

    Six most popular picks for Week 10 in the Westgate Super Contest:

    6) Los Angeles Chargers +3.5 (657)- W

    5) New Jersey Jets -2.5 (666)- L

    4) Los Angeles Rams -12 (697)- W

    3) Washington Redskins +1 (703)- L

    2) Jacksonville Jaguars -3.5 (719)- L

    1) Buffalo Bills +3 (1,182)- L

    Season record of top 6 picks: 23-37


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    Armadillo: Monday's List of 13: Wrapping up an NFL Sunday

    Vikings 38, Redskins 30— Minnesota won its last five games, covered its last four; Case Keenum was 21-29/304 passing with four TD’s. Keenum played for the Rams LY; LA was 4-5 in his starts before Jared Goff became the starter— Goff and the Rams visit the Twin Cities next Sunday.

    Jaguars 20, Chargers 17 OT— If you had the Chargers +3.5, take a big sigh of relief; LA had ball in last 2:00, up 17-14- they fumbled and Jaguars ran ball back for an apparent TD, but replay said the defender was down when he picked the ball up, so the TD was nullified, Jax kicked a FG and the game went to overtime.

    Chargers have four losses by 3 or less points; they had 15 drives in this game, ran 67 plays, but never got into the red zone- they were only 3-15 on 3rd down.

    Seahawks 22, Cardinals 16— When Russell Wilson gets inducted into the Hall of Fame, they’ll show the 54-yard pass he completed to Doug Baldwin in the 4th quarter of this game, after a scramble that looked a lot like Fran Tarkenton in his early Viking days.

    Arizona QB Stanton sprained his knee, may miss next week’s game, which could mean a QB showdown between Blaine Gabbert/TJ Yates. Seahawks were penalized 12 more times for 108 yards, but did enough to stay a game behind the Rams in the NFC West.

    Saints 47, Bills 10— New Orleans ran ball for 298 yards, had 32 first downs, also had an 18-yard edge in field position as they won their 7th straight game. Saints allowed 17 or less points in six of last seven games, and in the 7th game, their defense SCORED three TD’s, vs Detroit.

    Saints became the first team since 1941 to run for six touchdowns and not punt in that game.

    Packers 23, Bears 16— Worst replay challenge ever? In 2nd quarter, Bears would’ve had a first down around the Green Bay 2-yard line, but they challenged that the ball carrier had scored a TD, when in fact, he fumbled and the correct call was a touchback. Whoops.

    Hundley wins his first NFL road start but also tweaked his hamstring- they play Baltimore next.

    Titans 24, Bengals 20— Tennessee outgained Bengals 416-308, as once again Cincy ran only 50 plays- they’ve run 87 plays total the last two games.

    Score should’ve been more one-sided; Titan WR Matthews dropped a sure TD in 2nd quarter, followed by Succop having his streak of 56 consecutive FG’s under 50 yards end with a miss. Later on, rookie WR Davis fumbled on the 1-yard line for a touchback when the Titans were threatening to pull away for good. Bengals aren’t a good team.

    Buccaneers 15, Jets 10— Tampa Bay had a 17-yard edge in field position, as Fitzpatrick beat the team he started for the last two years. Jets still haven’t trailed at halftime since Week 2, but they are 4-6 heading into their bye week. Jets were held to 3 or 7 2nd half points in four of their last five games.

    Steelers 20, Colts 17— Indy scored two TD’s, on 60-61 yard pass plays; they led 10-3 at half but let this slip away at end. Steelers tied game with a 10-yard TD drive after an INT, then won game with a FG at the gun. Pittsburgh won its last four games, three by 6 or less points. Four of last six TD’s Steelers allowed came on plays of 57+ yards.

    Lions 38, Browns 24— Cleveland led 10-0 early, then 24-17 with 2:23 left in 3rd quarter, but if you took the Browns +13:
    a) Don’t bet on the Browns and…….
    b) they didn’t cover the spread, despite outgaining Lions 413-345.

    Right now, Cleveland has the #1 pick and the Giants #2 pick— will they both take QB’s? Will Giants trade Eli Manning to Denver or Jacksonville?

    Rams 33, Texans 7— Houston turned ball over four times (-4), once in red zone when Texans led 7-6 just before halftime. From that point on, it was all Rams, who gained 205 yards in the third quarter and dominated the second half.

    Houston won’t make the playoffs this year, but if Deshaun Watson rehabs well, they’re going to be very optimistic about 2018. As for the rest of this year, wouldn’t be surprised if TJ Yates gets the nod under center for their next game, against Arizona.

    Falcons 27, Cowboys 7— Atlanta sacked Dak Prescott eight times; turns out Ezekiel Elliott’s absence wasn’t the big deal Sunday, it was LT Tyron Smith- his replacement allowed six of the eight sacks. Cowboys’ only TD drive was 21 yards. Both teams are now 5-4 and Elliott is out for another five games- could be that neither one of these teams makes the playoffs.

    49ers 31, Giants 21— Three of SF’s four TD’s came on plays of 33+ yards; only 2 of their 13 TD’s coming into this game were on plays of 20+ yards. 49ers were 8-12 on third down- they gained 474 yards, averaged 11.5 yards/pass attempt.

    At this point, you wonder if Giant ownership has begun the search for a new coach/GM, and if so, how far along are they in the process. Losing this game puts the Giants ahead of SF on the draft list for next April; they’d have the #2 pick behind Cleveland right now.

    Patriots 41, Broncos 16— Has a special teams coach ever been fired at halftime of a game? In the first 19:40 Sunday night, Denver lost a fumbled punt, had a punt blocked and allowed a TD on a kick return. In the second half, they had 12 men on the field for a punt, giving New England a first down. No bueno.

    Sunday was Al Michaels’ 73rd birthday; I hope I’m as sharp as he is when I’m 73.

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    SACRAMENTO (3 - 9) at WASHINGTON (7 - 5) - 11/13/2017, 7:05 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    SACRAMENTO is 48-75 ATS (-34.5 Units) against Southeast division opponents since 1996.
    SACRAMENTO is 158-201 ATS (-63.1 Units) in road games after a non-conference game since 1996.
    WASHINGTON is 393-457 ATS (-109.7 Units) in home games since 1996.
    WASHINGTON is 108-152 ATS (-59.2 Units) in November games since 1996.
    WASHINGTON is 219-266 ATS (-73.6 Units) in home games versus poor offensive teams - scoring <=98 points/game since 1996.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    WASHINGTON is 3-1 against the spread versus SACRAMENTO over the last 3 seasons
    WASHINGTON is 4-1 straight up against SACRAMENTO over the last 3 seasons
    3 of 5 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    CLEVELAND (6 - 7) at NEW YORK (7 - 5) - 11/13/2017, 7:35 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    CLEVELAND is 1-8 ATS (-7.8 Units) as a favorite this season.
    NEW YORK is 17-7 ATS (+9.3 Units) in home games in the first half of the season over the last 2 seasons.
    NEW YORK is 15-5 ATS (+9.5 Units) in home games against Central division opponents over the last 3 seasons.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    CLEVELAND is 5-4 against the spread versus NEW YORK over the last 3 seasons
    CLEVELAND is 8-1 straight up against NEW YORK over the last 3 seasons
    7 of 9 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    MEMPHIS (7 - 5) at MILWAUKEE (6 - 6) - 11/13/2017, 8:05 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    MEMPHIS is 7-19 ATS (-13.9 Units) after a division game over the last 2 seasons.
    MILWAUKEE is 390-454 ATS (-109.4 Units) in home games since 1996.
    MILWAUKEE is 254-311 ATS (-88.1 Units) in non-conference games since 1996.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    MEMPHIS is 3-1 against the spread versus MILWAUKEE over the last 3 seasons
    MILWAUKEE is 2-2 straight up against MEMPHIS over the last 3 seasons
    2 of 4 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    ATLANTA (2 - 11) at NEW ORLEANS (7 - 6) - 11/13/2017, 8:05 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    NEW ORLEANS is 5-15 ATS (-11.5 Units) against Southeast division opponents over the last 3 seasons.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    NEW ORLEANS is 2-2 against the spread versus ATLANTA over the last 3 seasons
    ATLANTA is 3-1 straight up against NEW ORLEANS over the last 3 seasons
    3 of 4 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    MINNESOTA (7 - 5) at UTAH (6 - 7) - 11/13/2017, 9:05 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    MINNESOTA is 15-27 ATS (-14.7 Units) as a favorite over the last 2 seasons.
    MINNESOTA is 14-25 ATS (-13.5 Units) when playing against a team with a losing record over the last 2 seasons.
    UTAH is 9-22 ATS (-15.2 Units) after a non-conference game over the last 2 seasons.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    UTAH is 5-4 against the spread versus MINNESOTA over the last 3 seasons
    UTAH is 6-3 straight up against MINNESOTA over the last 3 seasons
    5 of 8 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    LA LAKERS (5 - 8) at PHOENIX (5 - 9) - 11/13/2017, 9:05 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    PHOENIX is 31-50 ATS (-24.0 Units) when playing against a team with a losing record over the last 3 seasons.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    PHOENIX is 5-4 against the spread versus LA LAKERS over the last 3 seasons
    PHOENIX is 5-4 straight up against LA LAKERS over the last 3 seasons
    6 of 9 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    DENVER (8 - 5) at PORTLAND (6 - 6) - 11/13/2017, 10:05 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    DENVER is 41-26 ATS (+12.4 Units) after a non-conference game over the last 3 seasons.
    PORTLAND is 6-16 ATS (-11.6 Units) in November games over the last 2 seasons.
    PORTLAND is 17-29 ATS (-14.9 Units) in the first half of the season over the last 2 seasons.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    PORTLAND is 4-4 against the spread versus DENVER over the last 3 seasons
    PORTLAND is 6-2 straight up against DENVER over the last 3 seasons
    7 of 8 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    PHILADELPHIA (6 - 6) at LA CLIPPERS (5 - 7) - 11/13/2017, 10:35 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    PHILADELPHIA is 57-36 ATS (+17.4 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
    PHILADELPHIA is 54-32 ATS (+18.8 Units) as an underdog over the last 2 seasons.
    PHILADELPHIA is 23-11 ATS (+10.9 Units) after a non-conference game over the last 2 seasons.
    PHILADELPHIA is 24-12 ATS (+10.8 Units) in non-conference games over the last 2 seasons.
    PHILADELPHIA is 48-32 ATS (+12.8 Units) when playing against a team with a losing record over the last 3 seasons.
    PHILADELPHIA is 26-10 ATS (+15.0 Units) versus good offensive teams - scoring 106+ points/game over the last 2 seasons.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    PHILADELPHIA is 3-1 against the spread versus LA CLIPPERS over the last 3 seasons
    LA CLIPPERS is 3-1 straight up against PHILADELPHIA over the last 3 seasons
    2 of 4 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    ORLANDO (8 - 5) at GOLDEN STATE (10 - 3) - 11/13/2017, 10:35 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    ORLANDO is 40-54 ATS (-19.4 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
    ORLANDO is 10-21 ATS (-13.1 Units) versus poor defensive teams - allowing 106+ points/game over the last 2 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 24-11 ATS (+11.9 Units) in November games over the last 3 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 44-28 ATS (+13.2 Units) after a non-conference game over the last 3 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 40-24 ATS (+13.6 Units) after a win by 10 points or more over the last 2 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 69-50 ATS (+14.0 Units) after 3 or more consecutive wins over the last 3 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 34-21 ATS (+10.9 Units) when playing against a team with a winning record over the last 2 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 29-17 ATS (+10.3 Units) versus good offensive teams - scoring 106+ points/game over the last 2 seasons.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    GOLDEN STATE is 3-1 against the spread versus ORLANDO over the last 3 seasons
    GOLDEN STATE is 4-0 straight up against ORLANDO over the last 3 seasons
    2 of 4 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    Monday, November 13


    Washington won its last three games with the Kings; home side won seven of last nine series games. Kings are 0-4 vs spread in last four games in this arena. Sacramento lost eight of last ten games; they’re 1-4-1 as a road underdog. Over is 4-1 in their last five road games. Wizards won three of their last four games; they’re 2-5 as home favorites. Last three Washington home games stayed under total.

    Cavaliers won nine of last ten games with New York, covered five of last six; loss was 15 days ago in Cleveland, 114-95. Under is 7-2-1 in last ten series games. Cavaliers are 4-1 vs spread in last five visits to Manhattan. Cavs lost six of last nine games; they’re 1-2 as a road favorite. Five of their last six games went over total. Knicks won won seven of last nine games; they’re 6-2 vs spread at home, 2-2 as home dogs. Over is 5-2 in their last seven games.

    Home side won last seven Memphis-Milwaukee games; Grizzlies are 2-3 vs spread in last five visits to Milwaukee. Under is 7-2-1 in last ten series games. Memphis lost four of last six games; they’re 3-1 as road underdogs. Over is 4-2 in Grizzlies’ road games. Bucks lost four of their last six games, but won last two; under is 3-1 in their last four games. Milwaukee is 2-2-1 as a home favorite.

    Hawks won three of last four games with New Orleans; they’re 3-2 vs spread in last five visits to Bourbon Street. Last three series games stayed under total. Atlanta lost nine of its last ten games; over is 6-1 in their last seven games. Hawks are 3-5-1 as a road underdog. New Orleans won four of its last five games; they’re 1-2 as a home favorite. Five of their last seven games stayed under the total.

    Jazz won six of last eight games with Minnesota; under is 4-2-1 in last seven series games. Wolves are 2-2 vs spread in last four visits to SLC. Minnesota lost its last two games; they’re 2-4-1 vs spread on road, 0-1-1 as road favorites. Over is 5-2 in their road games. Utah lost four of its last five games; they’re 5-4 vs spread at home, 1-0 as a home underdog. Over is 5-2 in their last seven games.

    Lakers/Phoenix split their last eight games; LA won first meeting this year 132-130. Lakers are 2-4 vs spread in last six visits here. Last six series games went over the total. Lakers lost their last three games, all of which stayed under; they’re 2-4 as road underdogs. Phoenix lost five of its last six games; they’re 0-2 as a home favorite. Over is 6-3 in their last nine games.

    Portland won eight of last ten games with Denver; they’re 2-3 vs spread in last five. Nuggets are 3-2 vs spread in last five visits to Oregon. Over is 8-1 in last nine series games. Denver won five of its last six games, all at home; they’re 1-4 vs spread on road, 0-1 as a road underdog. Over is 5-3 in their last eight games. Portland lost four of its last six games; they’re 1-6 as a home favorite. Last three Trailblazer games stayed under.

    JJ Redick vs his old teammates. Clippers won nine of last ten games with Philly; 76ers covered last three, are 1-4 vs spread in last five series games played here. Over is 4-2 in last six series games. 76ers won five of last seven games, but lost last two; they’re 4-2 as road underdogs. Over is 6-1 in their last seven games. Clippers lost their last five games; over is 5-2 in their last seven games. LA is 4-3 as a home favorite.

    Golden State won its last eight games with Orlando (6-2 vs spread); Magic is 3-2 vs spread in tis last five visits to Oakland. Under is 6-3 in last nine series games. Orlando won three of its last four road games; they’re 3-3 as a road underdog. Under is 5-2 in their last seven games. Golden State won/covered its last six games; they’re 3-4 as a home favorite. Over is 5-3 in their last eight games.
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    SACRAMENTO @ WASHINGTON
    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Sacramento's last 5 games on the road
    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Sacramento's last 5 games
    Washington is 10-2 SU in its last 12 games when playing at home against Sacramento
    Washington is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games when playing at home against Sacramento

    CLEVELAND @ NEW YORK
    Cleveland is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games when playing on the road against New York
    The total has gone OVER in 5 of Cleveland's last 5 games
    New York is 6-1 ATS in its last 7 games at home
    New York is 6-1 SU in its last 7 games at home

    MEMPHIS @ MILWAUKEE
    Memphis is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games when playing Milwaukee
    Memphis is 10-3 SU in its last 13 games when playing Milwaukee
    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Milwaukee's last 5 games at home
    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Milwaukee's last 7 games when playing at home against Memphis

    ATLANTA @ NEW ORLEANS
    The total has gone OVER in 6 of Atlanta's last 7 games
    Atlanta is 4-2 SU in its last 6 games when playing New Orleans
    New Orleans is 5-0 ATS in its last 5 games
    New Orleans is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games

    MINNESOTA @ UTAH
    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Minnesota's last 5 games
    Minnesota is 7-2 ATS in its last 9 games when playing on the road against Utah
    Utah is 6-2 SU in its last 8 games when playing Minnesota
    Utah is 17-6 SU in its last 23 games when playing at home against Minnesota

    LA LAKERS @ PHOENIX
    The total has gone OVER in 5 of LA Lakers's last 5 games when playing Phoenix
    The total has gone OVER in 5 of LA Lakers's last 5 games when playing on the road against Phoenix
    The total has gone OVER in 5 of Phoenix's last 5 games when playing at home against LA Lakers
    The total has gone OVER in 5 of Phoenix's last 5 games when playing LA Lakers

    DENVER @ PORTLAND
    The total has gone OVER in 8 of Denver's last 9 games when playing Portland
    Denver is 5-1 SU in its last 6 games
    Portland is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games when playing at home against Denver
    The total has gone OVER in 8 of Portland's last 9 games when playing Denver

    ORLANDO @ GOLDEN STATE
    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Orlando's last 5 games when playing on the road against Golden State
    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Orlando's last 7 games
    Golden State is 5-0 ATS in its last 5 games
    Golden State is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games

    PHILADELPHIA @ LA CLIPPERS
    The total has gone OVER in 6 of Philadelphia's last 7 games
    The total has gone OVER in 9 of Philadelphia's last 11 games on the road
    LA Clippers is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games when playing at home against Philadelphia
    LA Clippers is 10-1 SU in its last 11 games when playing Philadelphia


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    Sacramento @ Washington

    Game 701-702
    November 13, 2017 @ 7:05 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Sacramento
    114.776
    Washington
    119.271
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    Washington
    by 4 1/2
    203
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    Washington
    by 11 1/2
    210
    Dunkel Pick:
    Sacramento
    (+11 1/2); Under

    Cleveland @ New York


    Game 703-704
    November 13, 2017 @ 7:36 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Cleveland
    116.227
    New York
    121.779
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    New York
    by 5 1/2
    228
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    Cleveland
    by 5
    218 1/2
    Dunkel Pick:
    New York
    (+5); Over

    Memphis @ Milwaukee


    Game 705-706
    November 13, 2017 @ 8:00 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Memphis
    120.198
    Milwaukee
    120.555
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    Memphis
    Even
    204
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    Milwaukee
    by 4
    200 1/2
    Dunkel Pick:
    Memphis
    (+4); Over

    Atlanta @ New Orleans


    Game 707-708
    November 13, 2017 @ 8:05 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Atlanta
    116.083
    New Orleans
    117.595
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    New Orleans
    by 1 1/2
    214
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    New Orleans
    by 10
    217 1/2
    Dunkel Pick:
    Atlanta
    (+10); Under

    Minnesota @ Utah


    Game 709-710
    November 13, 2017 @ 9:05 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Minnesota
    120.611
    Utah
    114.983
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    Minnesota
    by 5 1/2
    221
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    Minnesota
    by 3 1/2
    207 1/2
    Dunkel Pick:
    Minnesota
    (-3 1/2); Over

    LA Lakers @ Phoenix


    Game 711-712
    November 13, 2017 @ 9:05 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    LA Lakers
    110.705
    Phoenix
    120.139
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    Phoenix
    by 9 1/2
    225
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    Phoenix
    by 1 1/2
    227
    Dunkel Pick:
    Phoenix
    (-1 1/2); Over

    Denver @ Portland


    Game 713-714
    November 13, 2017 @ 10:05 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Denver
    116.685
    Portland
    127.192
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    Portland
    by 10 1/2
    204
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    Portland
    by 1
    210 1/2
    Dunkel Pick:
    Portland
    (-1); Under

    Philadelphia @ LA Clippers


    Game 715-716
    November 13, 2017 @ 10:35 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Philadelphia
    115.683
    LA Clippers
    121.136
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    LA Clippers
    by 5 1/2
    222
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    LA Clippers
    by 1 1/2
    218 1/2
    Dunkel Pick:
    LA Clippers
    (-1 1/2); Over

    Orlando @ Golden State


    Game 717-718
    November 13, 2017 @ 10:35 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Orlando
    122.409
    Golden State
    132.075
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    Golden State
    by 9 1/2
    228
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    Golden State
    by 14 1/2
    233
    Dunkel Pick:
    Orlando
    (+14 1/2); Under
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