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    Monday's NBA Finals Game 5 Betting Preview: Cavaliers at Warriors

    Cleveland Cavaliers at Golden State Warriors (-8.5, 230.5)

    Warriors lead series 3-1

    The Cleveland Cavaliers avoided the sweep and aim to remain alive again on Monday when they visit the Golden State Warriors in Game 5 of the NBA Finals. The Cavaliers rolled to an impressive 137-116 victory in Game 4 when they drained a Finals' record 24 3-pointers and badly outplayed Golden State.

    Cleveland exposed the Warriors' defense with Finals' records for first-quarter points (49) and halftime points (86) and received a sensational offensive performance from point guard Kyrie Irving. "The magnitude of the games, especially the last game, it hit me in a very deep place," Irving said after his 40-point performance. "Just you want to play extremely well and you understand that's a do-or-die game." Golden State blew a 3-1 series lead while losing to the Cavaliers in last season's Finals but continue to say it is a different team - one that won its first 15 postseason games prior to being spanked on Friday. "I don't think there was any concern or thoughts about history," Warriors coach Steve Kerr told reporters. "I think it was we played a desperate team on their home floor, a great team, with great players, and they came out and handed it to us. Simple as that."

    TV: 9 p.m. ET, ABC

    LINE HISTORY:
    The Warriors opened as 8.5-point home favorites for Game 5 and the total hit the board at a massive 230.5. Neither number has moved thus far.

    INJURY REPORT:

    Cavaliers - C E. Tavares (Out For Season, hand).

    Warriors - C Z. Pachulia (Questionable, possible suspension), SF K. Looney (Out Indefinitely, hip).

    ABOUT THE CAVALIERS (64-35 SU, 45-50-4 ATS, 59-39-1 O/U): Irving is averaging 39 points over the past two games and 30.3 for the series as he continues to raise his growing reputation as a big-time player. "He's just been built for that moment," Cleveland star forward LeBron James told reporters. "I said that over and over again - that he's always been built for the biggest moments, and he showed that once again. It's not surprising. He's just that special." James isn't doing so bad himself with averages of 31.8 points, 11.8 rebounds and 10.5 assists and he posted his ninth career playoff triple-double in Game 4 to break a tie with legendary Magic Johnson for most all-time.

    ABOUT THE WARRIORS (82-16 SU, 51-44-3 ATS, 44-54 O.U):
    Forward Draymond Green's absence in Game 5 of last season's Finals due to his accumulation of technical fouls helped fuel Cleveland's comeback but Green says the situation is different this season as the reminders increase. "I'm sure that's just the world we live in," Green told reporters. "But we were up 3-0 (this year). We weren't up 3-0 last year. So, it's a little different. And at the end of the day, the series is a little different. Thank God I get to play in Game 5." Green's offense has been much quieter than his vocal cords as he is averaging 11.3 points on just 35.6 percent shooting to go along with 9.8 rebounds per game.

    TRENDS:

    * Cavaliers are 1-7-1 ATS in their last 9 vs. Western Conference.
    * Warriors are 14-3-1 ATS in their last 18 after allowing 100 points or more in their previous game.
    * Over is 4-1 in Cavaliers last 5 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
    * Under is 11-1 in Warriors last 12 games following a straight up loss.
    * Under is 7-1-2 in the last 10 meetings in Golden State.

    CONSENSUS:
    60 percent of users are siding with the road underdog Cleveland Cavaliers and 63 percent are on the Over.
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    NBA
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    Monday, June 12



    Cleveland @ Golden State

    Game 709-710
    June 12, 2017 @ 9:00 pm

    Dunkel Rating:
    Cleveland
    132.208
    Golden State
    139.371
    Dunkel Team:
    Dunkel Line:
    Dunkel Total:
    Golden State
    by 7
    227
    Vegas Team:
    Vegas Line:
    Vegas Total:
    Golden State
    by 9
    231 1/2
    Dunkel Pick:
    Cleveland
    (+9); Under





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    Monday, June 12


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    CLEVELAND (64 - 35) at GOLDEN STATE (82 - 16) - 6/12/2017, 9:00 PM
    Top Trends for this game.
    CLEVELAND is 12-21 ATS (-11.1 Units) after a non-conference game this season.
    CLEVELAND is 12-21 ATS (-11.1 Units) in non-conference games this season.
    GOLDEN STATE is 109-89 ATS (+11.1 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 32-22 ATS (+7.8 Units) when the total is greater than or equal to 220 this season.
    GOLDEN STATE is 102-85 ATS (+8.5 Units) as a favorite over the last 2 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 87-64 ATS (+16.6 Units) in home games over the last 3 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 7-0 ATS (+7.0 Units) in home games against Central division opponents this season.
    GOLDEN STATE is 42-25 ATS (+14.5 Units) after a non-conference game over the last 2 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 56-34 ATS (+18.6 Units) in all playoff games since 1996.
    GOLDEN STATE is 10-2 ATS (+7.8 Units) when leading in a playoff series this season.
    GOLDEN STATE is 38-20 ATS (+16.0 Units) revenging a loss vs opponent over the last 3 seasons.
    GOLDEN STATE is 16-4 ATS (+11.6 Units) in home games after allowing 130 points or more since 1996.
    GOLDEN STATE is 29-16 ATS (+11.4 Units) when playing against a team with a winning record this season.
    GOLDEN STATE is 20-9 ATS (+10.1 Units) when playing against a team with a winning record - 2nd half of the season this season.
    GOLDEN STATE is 26-14 ATS (+10.6 Units) versus good offensive teams - scoring 106+ points/game this season.
    GOLDEN STATE is 24-12 ATS (+10.8 Units) versus good offensive teams - scoring 106+ points/game - 2nd half of the season over the last 2 seasons.

    Head-to-Head Series History
    GOLDEN STATE is 13-10 against the spread versus CLEVELAND over the last 3 seasons
    GOLDEN STATE is 14-9 straight up against CLEVELAND over the last 3 seasons
    13 of 21 games in this series have gone UNDER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

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    9:00 PM
    CLEVELAND vs. GOLDEN STATE
    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of Cleveland's last 8 games when playing on the road against Golden State
    Cleveland is 2-7 SU in its last 9 games when playing on the road against Golden State
    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Golden State's last 5 games at home
    The total has gone OVER in 8 of Golden State's last 9 games
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    Game 5 - Cavaliers at Warriors
    June 11, 2017


    They finished just short of history.

    One season after breaking the NBA record for most wins in a season with 73, the Warriors were on the verge of becoming the first team to finish the postseason undefeated following a 15-0 start. Golden State returns home on Monday, but not for a parade across the Bay Area. The Warriors have three shots to capture their second championship in three seasons, as Steve Kerr’s squad is back at Oracle Arena for Game 5 of the NBA Finals against the Cavaliers.

    Cleveland blitzed Golden State on Friday with a first quarter barrage for the ages by posting an NBA Finals-record 49 points in the first 12 minutes. The Cavaliers didn’t let up from there as they kept their season alive with a 137-116 blowout of the Warriors to easily cash as five-point home underdogs.

    Kyrie Irving lit up the Warriors in consecutive games at Quicken Loans Arena as the Cavaliers’ guard followed up a 38-point effort in Game 3 by dropping 40 points on Golden State in Game 4. Irving failed to knock down a shot from long range in seven attempts in Game 3, but connected on seven treys in Game 4, while Cleveland torched Golden State for 24 three-pointers.

    LeBron James did his usual thing for Cleveland by scoring 31 points, pulling down 11 rebounds, and dishing out 10 assists, while jawing with Golden State counterpart Kevin Durant in a hotly-contested matchup. Durant held up his end of the bargain in Game 4 by posting 35 points, although he shot 9-of-22 from the floor. Through four games in the Finals, Durant is averaging 34.2 points per game, while putting up at least 29 points in eight of his previous 10 postseason contests.

    No other Warrior besides Durant scored more than 16 points, as KD’s running mate, Stephen Curry registered only 14 points on 4-of-13 shooting. Curry’s lowest output in last year’s Finals was 11 points in the series opener, as the two-time MVP was held without field goal in the opening quarter in Game 4. Golden State shot poorly from downtown by converting 11-of-39 three-point attempts, including a combined 4-of-18 from Curry and Durant.

    Cleveland improved to 4-0 in its last four games facing elimination dating back to last year’s epic Finals comeback against Golden State. The catalyst to the 2016 comeback was the Game 5 suspension of Golden State’s do-it-all man Draymond Green, following his punch to James’ nether region. Green was on his way to getting tossed from Game 4, but confusion on an earlier technical kept the former Michigan State star in the game as the Warriors will have his services for Game 5.

    In the last two NBA Finals, the eventual champion won the title on the road, as Golden State can buck that trend by winning on Monday in Oakland. The Warriors own a 4-4 ATS record at Oracle Arena in the playoffs, with two of those covers coming in the first two games against the Cavaliers.

    Bettors playing the ‘over’ (227 ˝) in Game 4 were lighting up cigars and drinking champagne at the end of the first quarter on Friday as both clubs couldn’t miss. It was never in doubt and it’s been a common theme in the playoffs. Including that result, the ‘over’ is now 3-1 in this NBA Finals and the high side has produced an eye-opening 47-30-1 (61%) in this year’s postseason and that includes a 24-10 (71%) record after the first round.

    Oddsmakers sent out a total of 231 for Monday’s matchup and a few betting shops have already nudged the total up to 232.

    VegasInsider.com NBA analyst Chris David offered up his thoughts on Friday’s action and what to look for in Game 5.

    “A lot of old school pundits aren’t enjoying the new-look NBA and often point to the lack of defense and physical play. The point is well taken but the rules have changed and so has the talent on the floor. The amount of elite shooters in today’s game is far superior to the past and that was evident on Friday when Cleveland shot 53 percent (24-of-45) from distance and broke a handful of NBA records by doing so. Before the series started, I predicted Golden State to sweep but I also noted that the Cavaliers could sweep if they continued to light it up from the outside,” said David.

    “The Cavaliers are sloppy defensively and allowing 36 trips to the free throw line would’ve sent you home on any other night if it wasn’t for your hot shooting. Other surprising numbers that stood out from Friday were the lack of field goal attempts taken by both Curry (13) and Klay Thompson (11), which were well below their averages. Knowing that Cleveland’s defense is limited and allowing 119.8 PPG in this series, leaning to Golden State’s team total (120) in Game 5 appears to a solid lean.”

    Including Friday’s result, Golden State has watched the ‘over’ go 12-4 (75%) in the playoffs while Cleveland is 12-5 (71%) to the high side.

    The first quarter has gone ‘over’ in every game of this series despite seeing numbers get as high as 61 for the opening 12 minutes. The ‘over’ has gone 3-1 in the first-half but the ‘under’ is 3-1 in the second-half.

    VegasInsider.com handicapper Tony Mejia believes whoever wins Game 5 will heat up from distance, "After hitting an NBA record 24 3-pointers, the Cavs look to stay alive in Oakland and must continue to stay hot from beyond the arc. Between J.R. Smith finally finding the range and Kyle Korver doing his thing off the bench, Cleveland has to find a way to remain potent from the perimeter. They were 19-for-60 from 3-point range in the first two games at Oracle Arena and can't afford a poor shooting game if they're going to extend the series. Count on them needing 20 3-pointers to have a chance to steal Game 5 and extend the NBA Finals once again."

    Prior to the series at Sportsbook.ag, the Warriors were listed at 5/2 odds (Bet $100 to win $250) to beat the Cavaliers in five games. That line has moved to -330 (Bet $330 to win $100) at Sportsbook.ag, while Golden State is listed at 5/1 odds to grab the title in six games. In case you believe in divine intervention, the Cavaliers are 10/1 to win their second straight championship and become the first NBA team ever to win a playoff series after trailing 3-0.
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    Warriors' Green will be there for Game 5
    June 11, 2017


    OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) A year ago for Game 5 of the NBA Finals, Golden State general manager Bob Myers sat alongside suspended forward Draymond Green next-door to Oracle Arena in a suite at the Oakland Athletics game.

    Myers told Green: Let's not do this again.

    On Monday night, the Warriors will try again to close out their second championship in three years with the fiery Green on the court to start Game 5 this time. They are up 3-1 in the best-of-seven series - again. LeBron James and Cleveland, looking down and out only days ago in an 0-3 hole, now have some momentum after winning Game 4 and they will try to stave off elimination once more.

    ''We won three games in a row in the Finals and 15 in a row overall in the playoffs, you just think it's going to happen,'' Green said Sunday. ''And then all of a sudden you get slapped in the face. It's like, `Whoa.' You remember what can be, what can happen.''

    Golden State would rather forget that monumental collapse last year, when Green's absence for Game 5 because of flagrant foul point accumulation helped swing the series. He took a swipe at James' groin in Game 4 after the Cavaliers superstar stepped over him.

    Myers chose to stay with Green as he sat out that game last June.

    ''When we were there last year I think I looked at him and said: `Let's just never do this again. Let's make sure you're playing and I get to watch. This doesn't feel right, let's avoid this, move forward,''' Myers recalled. ''Whatever he's doing, he should keep doing it. And look, he hasn't lost any of the intensity and he hasn't lost his edge. That's the hardest challenge, when you have that type of emotions, to channel it. And he's really been able to do that. Like I said, I think because of experience.''

    Green said his suspension conversation with Myers is a moment ''I remember like it was yesterday, I'll never forget it.''

    If the Warriors can close out the tough-to-eliminate Cavs on Monday, they would become the first Bay Area team to capture a championship at home since the A's finished the Los Angeles Dodgers in Game 5 of the 1974 World Series.

    James, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love know they aren't out of this yet - after all, they came back from a daunting deficit a year ago on the way to the city's first major team sports title in 52 years. Sure, it will be a tall task in Oakland with a motivated Kevin Durant trying to capture his first career title and playing like a possible Finals MVP.

    ''We know that champions don't die. They don't just lay down and die,'' Durant said.

    The Cavs showed what they're capable of doing when everything clicks on both ends, scoring a record 86 points in the first half of Friday's 137-116 win to extend the series and postpone any Warriors plans for a victory parade.

    But that was in Cleveland.

    ''We have to be 20 times better in this building,'' said James, who has won at least one road game in 29 straight postseason series.

    Golden State knows it too must make adjustments, including getting a hand in the face of the Cavs' sharpshooters after surrendering a Finals record 24 3-pointers Friday, seven of those by Irving during his 40-point masterpiece. Warriors coach Steve Kerr said it all starts with better on-ball defense.

    Durant said he can accept when Cleveland hits a contested 3, but not those when nobody closes out so shooters have ample time and long, open looks.

    ''You can make a sandwich before somebody even gets out there,'' Durant said of how it seemed in Game 4.

    Green has stayed just on the right side of the line this postseason, not in danger of an automatic suspension for technicals or flagrant accumulation.

    ''Maybe more measured,'' Myers said, comparing Green from last year to now. ''He's confining his intensity in a more narrow lane, meaning sometimes he would spill over in areas. But he's learned how to focus that intensity. And also perspective and experience. There's no substitute for experiencing winning a championship and losing one for what else you need to know as a player.''

    James, too, understands. He's been on both sides the previous two years.

    He was asked whether this might be the game the Warriors feel they must get.

    ''No, I feel this is the game we've got to get,'' he said, ''or it's over.''
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    Irving saves best when facing elimination
    June 11, 2017


    OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) Whether it's his lightning quick dribble, supreme confidence that doesn't seem to waver or ability to score from almost anywhere on the court, Kyrie Irving seems to be at his best when things look the bleakest for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

    LeBron James said his teammate is built for the drama of an NBA Finals elimination game, a trait the Golden State Warriors have learned all too well these past two years.

    Whether it's extending a season with a pair of 40-point performances or hitting the series-deciding 3-pointer in a Game 7 win last year, Irving's already stellar game has risen to another level whenever the Cavs have faced elimination.

    ''It's a time to definitely show everything that you're made of in those moments,'' Irving said Sunday on the eve of another elimination game with Cleveland trailing the Warriors 3-1 in the NBA Finals.

    ''You never want to be in those moments of elimination games, but when you are, you want to be as prepared as possible. And regardless of any situation, I always feel like if I do a great job of giving confidence in my teammates and remaining calm in the situation.''

    Cleveland has won four straight Finals elimination games, rallying from a 3-1 series deficit to win the championship last year and then winning 137-116 in Game 4 on Friday night to extend this series.

    Irving scored 40 points in the Game 5 win at Golden State last year, hit the tiebreaking 3-pointer in the final minute of Game 7 and scored 40 more on Friday, raising his average in those elimination games to 32.5 points per game. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, there have been only seven times a player scored at least 40 points to win when facing elimination in the Finals and Irving and James have each done it twice the past two years. Elgin Baylor did it twice in the 1960s and Wilt Chamberlain did it in 1970 for the Lakers.

    ''We love how aggressive Kyrie's been, and it's been great for our team, obviously, with his individual ability to make shots and to take big shots and to knock them down,'' James said. ''That's been key for our team. And for the rest of us, we have to do everything else.''

    Irving played just one game before injuring his knee in the first Finals meeting between these teams in 2015. He has been the barometer for Cleveland the past two years around the constant greatness from James.

    Irving has scored nearly seven more points per game in Cavs wins than losses in the past two Finals with the biggest difference being his long-range shooting; he is shooting 27 percent in the six losses and 53 percent in the five wins.

    That was especially evident in the Game 4 win when Irving hit seven of Cleveland's record-setting 24 3-pointers.

    ''That's a big difference,'' Golden State guard Klay Thompson said. ''When he's getting 39 points off 2s, you can live with that. When he's extending the floor and hitting those 3s, it opens the floor for everybody. We can't let him do that again. We have to limit that number to two or three. Seven is too many.''

    Thompson has spent most of the series chasing Irving around the court like a yellow lab who keeps chasing a ball, at least that's how it looks at times to coach Steve Kerr. Thompson frustrated Irving early, holding him to 40 percent shooting the first two games.

    But after getting moved off the ball at times, Irving played much better in the two games at home. He scored 38 points in the Game 3 loss before his big Game 4 performance.

    ''I think that in Game 1 and 2, as well as part of 3, just definitely got caught up in trying to find that rhythm with the basketball in my hands,'' Irving said. ''But as long as collectively as a group that everyone feels good, then my opportunities will come on breakdowns from their defense and offensively and things that we can be sharper at. I have to be implementing in those opportunities, and the way to do that is just being an open screener, being just a willing sacrificer, and the opportunities will come.

    ''And when those opportunities come, then you kill it.''
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    Cavs' Lue pleased by feisty turn to Finals
    June 12, 2017


    OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) Seven technical fouls, one flagrant foul, stars LeBron James and Kevin Durant jawing at each other and several other dustups.

    For Cleveland coach Tyronn Lue, the physical turn the NBA Finals took in Game 4 is just what he wanted and is the recipe he hopes the Cavaliers will follow for the rest of the series against the Golden State Warriors.

    ''Me personally, I liked it,'' Lue said Sunday. ''I thought the first two games we were being too nice. The first three games, helping guys up off the floor, smiling, talking to guys and - yeah, I didn't like that. So I think Game 4, talking trash, being physical, whatever you got to do to try to get that edge to win, you got to do it.''

    The Cavs look to carry that same mindset into Game 5, when they once again try to stave off elimination.

    After two straight Golden State blowouts to open the series and a thrilling comeback in Game 3, things turned feisty in Game 4 as the teams that are meeting in a third straight Finals showed some animosity.

    James said the Cavs were upset about comments from Golden State's Draymond Green about wanting to celebrate a title on Cleveland's floor for the second time in three seasons.

    The game started off with an edge and things really took off in the third quarter. It started when Durant took exception to a blow to the head from Kevin Love that led to a flagrant foul and a face-to-face confrontation with James.

    It escalated late in the third after a scramble to the floor for a loose ball led to a jump ball. Cleveland's Iman Shumpert stood over Pachulia and tried to grab the ball after the whistle. Pachulia then delivered two swipes to Shumpert's groin area, leading to technical fouls on both players.

    ''It was totally between the lines and with the respect of the rules,'' Pachulia said of the physical play. ''Nothing has crossed the line. It's emotional. It's possibly the last game of the season, so you definitely don't want to give up anything easy. We know it's not going to be an easy game for us. We're going to earn it.''

    The more physical play appeared to be just the thing to get Cavs power forward Tristan Thompson unleashed. A key player the past two years because of his relentless rebounding and hard-nosed play, Thompson had been mostly invisible the first three games with just 11 rebounds.

    Thompson had 10 alone in Game 4, including four on the offensive end that gave Cleveland extra opportunities to score and prevented the Warriors from getting out in the break.

    ''T-Lue has been saying that since Game 1, the team that has the starting lineup that comes out and sets the tone early and is more physical one through five will definitely have the advantage in the game,'' Thompson said. ''We did that Game 4 and we got to have that same type of effort and even more in Game 5.''

    That's exactly the attitude Lue wants rather than the congeniality the bothered him so much at the start of a series between teams that have so much respect for each other.

    ''They're coming right after us, so we have to get after them,'' he said. ''I don't see anything's funny or anything's to smile about. So hitting and being physical and just everything they do to us in the first three games, we have to do that. Last game, in Game 4, I thought that's who we are. Got to be physical. If it's talking trash or knocking guys on the floor, whatever you got to do, you got to do it.''
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