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Bluesters
08-20-2004, 12:44 PM
It's finally here, Changeabet.com, the only sportsbook that actually allows you to change your bet while the game is still in progress. Dont like your wager, simply switch to the other side of the game or completely cancel the wager and save a bundle.

Also Changeabet.com is offering a 40% sign up bonus for all new accounts, just mention "EAGLES" to get your bonus.

For more info, just go to Changeabet.com to learn how to change your bet. This is a brand new concept and signups are going through the roof.
Dont forget to mention "EAGLES" to get your 40% bonus.

hsp_012
08-20-2004, 12:47 PM
To good to be true!!
SCAM written all over that one!!! LOL

Bluesters
08-20-2004, 01:06 PM
Please go to site before making assessments, this is no scam.

Let me give you a little detail about changing your bets

Option 1. You can change your bet in a single game. For example, if the Eagles are playing the Dolphins and the Eagles are winning 50-0 and you originally bet the Dolphins at +7 it seems you have a great chance of losing but if you want to switch your bet from the Dolphins +7 to Eagles -7 you need to do so before the end of the 3rd quarter. Here is what will happen, lets say you originally wagered 220 to win 200 on the Dolphins, now you called up and changed your bet from the Dolphins to the Eagles at -7, the house will take 55% of your wager plus the juice and the remainig 45% of your 200 wager will be placed on the Eagles, the Eagles win and you just won 90.00. So let's go back, when you changed your bet the house took your 20.00 juice plus 55% of your 200 wager (110.00). 20.00 + 110.00 =130.00 in net losses, but remember you won your 45% wager on the Eagles (+90). In summary: 130.00 (Net losses) - 90.00 (Net wins) = -40.00

Okay, you lost 40.00 but isn't that better than losing the initial 220.00.

Remember that is just 1 option out of the 4 available, with the one being described as the worst.

BettorsChat
08-20-2004, 05:01 PM
In my opinion you better be extremely careful on this one. That is a new book that just opened a little over a month ago. Not only that but the design looks like that took it from another book.

Bluesters
08-20-2004, 05:09 PM
Changeabet is in conjunction with the following books:

www.betCRIS.com
www.BigDavesports.com
www.BetCNN.com
www.Sports-Gambling.com
www.BetTraffic.com
www.BoDog.com

I am researching this info, do not hold me to it, this is what I was told. I am waiting for an explanation and then I'll post.
Thank You

BettorsChat
08-20-2004, 05:41 PM
Wrong

Cris does not own Bodog

Bodog does not own Cris

BettorsChat
08-20-2004, 05:42 PM
Sports-Gambling isn't owned by any of those books either

Where do you come up with this info??

Bluesters
08-20-2004, 06:14 PM
I will get to the root of it and if I'm wrong I'll post, then someone will have some explaining to do.

Bluesters
08-20-2004, 06:26 PM
This is an e-mail I received from the Accounts manager at changeabet:

Bluester,
>
>
> These are all my sites well just a few ,
>
> www.betCRIS.com
> www.ChangeaBet.com
> www.BigDavesports.com
> www.BetCNN.com
> www.Sports-Gambling.com
> www.BetTraffic.com
> www.BoDog.com

I wrote him back to clarify and waiting for reply.
I'll post when the message is returned.


Believe me I am not trying to rip anyone off here, I personally deposited 250.00 in their account to try it out and if they are everything I believe they are, well then it's worth it.
If anyone would like to speak to the accounts manager to discuss changing their bets you can call him directly, he would be happy to discuss all he has to offer.

Tony Marsoni
"The BookHawg"
Accounts Manager-Changeabet.com
1-888-225-4188

canuck
08-20-2004, 07:05 PM
For what its worth, there was a Tony Marsoni that worked in the advertising department of Casablanca. If this is the same guy that is hardly a recommendation and he certainly is not the owner of BoDog. Got a phone solicitation from these guys yesterday...........was not impressed.

Bluesters
08-20-2004, 07:26 PM
I didn't say I was recommending, I am just sharing information with the forum, do with the info what you want.
If you think it's too good to be true to change your bet, then dont bother. I personally think it's great and I'm taking advantage of it.

BettorsChat
08-20-2004, 11:33 PM
Tell that guy that I will bet him whatever amount he can come up with that he doesn't own any of the following sportsbooks.

Bodog
BetCris
SportsGambling

GK World Link Telecom SA
Oficentro Ejecutivo Sabana Sur, Edificio 7, 5 Piso
San Jose, CR 00000
CR

Domain Name: BODOG.COM

Administrative Contact:
DNS Administrator dnsadmin@gkworldlink.com
GK World Link Telecom SA
Oficentro Ejecutivo Sabana Sur, Edificio 7, 5 Piso
San Jose, N/A no zip code
CR
Phone: 1-888-263-0000
Fax:
Technical Contact:
DNS Administrator dnsadmin@gkworldlink.com
GK World Link Telecom SA
Oficentro Ejecutivo Sabana Sur, Edificio 7, 5 Piso
San Jose, N/A no zip code
CR
Phone: 1-888-263-0000
Fax:

Record updated on 2004-02-14 06:24:18
Record created on 2000-02-21
Record expires on 2005-02-21


Registrant:
Investments Manager, S.A.
ATTN: BETCRIS.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA. 20172-0447

Domain Name: BETCRIS.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Quiros, Christian eu33b5j278y@networksolutionsprivateregistration.co m
ATTN: BETCRIS.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
570-708-8780

Record expires on 17-Jan-2009.
Record created on 17-Jan-2000.
Database last updated on 20-Aug-2004 23:24:10 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

UDNS1.ULTRADNS.NET 204.69.234.1
UDNS2.ULTRADNS.NET 204.74.101.1


Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SPORTS-GAMBLING.COM
Created on: 07-Jan-97
Expires on: 06-Jan-07
Last Updated on: 23-Jul-04

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration SPORTS-GAMBLING.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599
Technical Contact:
Private, Registration SPORTS-GAMBLING.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ASTONIND.COM
NS2.ASTONIND.COM


Nettraffix Marketing Corp
315 Lawson Avenue
West Vancouver, BC v7s 2h6
CA

Domain Name: BETTRAFFIC.COM

Administrative Contact:
Daniel Wabe dave@betcbsports.com
Xeon Financial Ltd.
1 Mapp Street
Belize City, n/a n/a
BZ
Phone: 506-281-0885
Fax: 877-848-6580
Technical Contact:
Daniel Wabe dave@betcbsports.com
Xeon Financial Ltd.
1 Mapp Street
Belize City, n/a n/a
BZ
Phone: 506-281-0885
Fax: 877-848-6580

Record updated on 2004-03-31 16:25:14
Record created on 2003-04-14
Record expires on 2005-04-14
Database last updated on 2004-08-20 23:26:41 EST

Domain servers in listed order:

DNS1.010-101.COM 216.18.1.2
NS2.010-101.COM 64.69.77.7


As you can see none of them use the same service provider for hosting. Also if you post up with this guy you're crazy as he's obviously a scam artist to make the comments that he did about owning those books. Do you actually think if someone owned that many books you would be talking to him? I've been on these internet sites since 1994 so I know what i'm talking about.

BettorsChat
08-20-2004, 11:38 PM
Bluesters,

Forward me the e-mail where the guy stated that he owned those books. I have some people that I think would be interested in reading that.

Bluesters
08-21-2004, 10:06 AM
Bettorschat,
I am not disagreeing with you, obviosly you know your stuff.
The e-mail that you are inquiring about I posted above.
As you can see he states that " These are my sites as well"
I AM TRYING TO CLARIFY WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT.
I took it as though they were all owned by one company and I was wrong. As you can see he does not say that they are all owned by one company, I just misread it and like I said I am trying to clarify his statement. Regardless I think it's a good book and I have already been paid in a timely manner by changeabet when I requested a withdrawal. One of the qualifications to changing your bet is you need to have an account open for 21 days to become eligible to change your bets. Why don't you call him if you need justification, I left his number in an earlier post.
I will continue to post my relationship (good or bad) with Changeabet.com

Thanks for your time

Bluesters
08-21-2004, 11:16 AM
It is Here guys. Change A Bet is the 1st Sports Book where you can change your bet before the 4th Qtr starts. You also get a 40% Bonus on your 1st Deposit. Just mention "EAGLES"

What is Change A Bet ?

Change a bet allows qualified bettors who believe that they may lose their bet to adjust or change the bet they have confirmed. Bets placed on football or basketball games maybe adjusted before the end of the third quarter.
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How Does Change A bet works?

Change a bet reduces the amount of money a player may lose by returning a percentage on a cancelled game. Normally a player would lose all the monies involved in a bet. With change a bet a player can save up to 90% of each sure lose bet.
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How to change bets

There are four ways in which a player may change his bets. Each must be done before the third quarter ends or second half begins.
1. Bet the other side of the game. Bet must be placed before the end of the third quarter.
2. Bet another game. The other game being bet could not have started. Bet must be placed before the end of the third quarter.
3. Cancel the bet. Bet must be placed before the end of the third quarter.
4. Change teams in a parlay. Bet must be placed before the second half begins.
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Rules for Changing Bets

1. Bet changing is a privilege and not a right. CAB reserves the right to reject any “bet change” request.
2. All players must play for at least 21 days to be qualified.
3. Bet changing is limited to basketball and football sides, totals and parlays.
4. Halftime, second half, quarters, teasers and proposition bets may not be changed.
5. All bet changes on sides and totals must be done before the end of the third quarter, and parlay changes must be done before the second half begins.
6. Players may only make one change per bet...
7. Vigs are not refundable on changed bets.
8. Players may not exceed the original lay amount when changing to bet the other side

Bluesters
08-21-2004, 11:19 AM
In regard to cancelling or changing bets:

1. You can change your bet up to haltime when your wager is in a parlay only. They will refund you 90% of your wager and they keep 10% plus the juice. Remember this must be completed through a phone call to Changeabet.com before the 3rd quarter starts. You cannot do this on the internet.

2. If you change your bet in a single game, meaning if the Eagles are playing the Dolphins and the Eagles are winning 50-0 and you originally bet the Dolphins, you then can change your bet to the Eagles (must be done by the 3rd quarter. However, the book takes 55% of your wager and the juice and you are refunded 45% of your original wager.
That 45% will then be on the Eagles

3. Changing a bet from one game to another game will cost you 30% of your original wager plus the juice. Meaning (using the example from above) if you change your horrible pick on the Dolphins to another game, that game cannot be started yet and now your wager is only worth the 70% of original bet minus the juice of course. (This is not a bad option if you are getting blown out)

4. If you want to cancel your bet and not change it, the book will take 70% of your wager + juice and refund you the difference (Approx. 30%)

(REMEMBER Steps 2 thru 4 must be either changed or cancelled by the END of the 3rd Qtr.)
Step 1 must be changed by haltime or the start of the 3rd quarter.

BettorsChat
08-21-2004, 11:35 AM
Dude are you schill for this book?

You just made a deposit now you made a withdrawal? Also it does state that he owns those sites. It says "these are my sites as well".

Also please forward me the whole e-mail at bettorstalk@aol.com

Bluesters
08-21-2004, 11:55 AM
Thats right, I made a deposit, I won and then I withdrew to make sure they were legit, I withdrew my winnings and left my initial deposit in there.

I sure will send you the whole e-mail along with the response
and explanation of their statement once I get it.


"These are my sites as well" statement

that doesn't necessarily mean he owns them, he could just run them or have some sort of hand in them. I'll post when I hear back.

BettorsChat
08-21-2004, 12:00 PM
He doesn't even run those sites so that's a lie too.