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wayne1218
01-18-2009, 11:43 PM
@ Tampa Bay

Pick the Best Bet and give a Prediction. Trends, Stats, post 'em here if you want.

Who do you like and why? :)

WayneChung
01-19-2009, 12:20 AM
usually the sharps lock in on something early but this line keeps flipping back and forth between 6- and 7,also very little movement with the total which opened at 46-,went as high as 47-,now back to 47,JUST TELLS ME VEGAS MADE A PRETTY GOOD LINE ON BOTH THE SIDE AND THE TOTAL WHEN THEY ARE GETTING ACTION BOTH WAYS LIKE THAT !!

WayneChung
01-19-2009, 12:23 AM
usually the sharps lock in on something early but this line keeps flipping back and forth between 6- and 7,also very little movement with the total which opened at 46-,went as high as 47-,now back to 47,JUST TELLS ME VEGAS MADE A PRETTY GOOD LINE ON BOTH THE SIDE AND THE TOTAL WHEN THEY ARE GETTING ACTION BOTH WAYS LIKE THAT !!
line opened at 7 and 46- // its been out over 30 minutes and is now 7 and 47,it stayed at 6- for about 20 minutes,i have been sitting here watching donbest !! ps-it just went back to 6- // LOL !!

WayneChung
01-19-2009, 12:38 AM
GUYS I AM SITTING HERE IN A GLOW AFTER A 4-0 DAY IN NFL,but just wanted to add that warner and big ben is a dream match-up for the tv ratings and i personally think it will be in the top three most-viewed superbowls of all time-JUST MY RANDOM THOUGHTS !!

WayneChung
01-19-2009, 03:34 AM
GUYS I AM SITTING HERE IN A GLOW AFTER A 4-0 DAY IN NFL,but just wanted to add that warner and big ben is a dream match-up for the tv ratings and i personally think it will be in the top three most-viewed superbowls of all time-JUST MY RANDOM THOUGHTS !!
bc amigos looking like 6- and 47 is going to be a pretty solid line !!

jcindaville
01-19-2009, 10:57 AM
If the Steelers are in the superbowl, it will get great tv ratings.

I bet Tampa will have 50000 Steeler fans there

BettorsChat
01-19-2009, 11:03 AM
Shit I hope this is a good game!

I have to go with Arizona the cinderella team. If Arizona can play defense like they did in the first half of the game against Philly plus play offense like they did the whole game then they could win this outright. However, Pittsburgh's defense is damn good, but Warner and Fitz could give them some trouble. Total looks a little high to me though.

Pittsburgh 24 Arizona 20

BigWeiner
01-19-2009, 12:52 PM
I like the under. Pitt 24-17

lokio_3
01-19-2009, 01:25 PM
ill try to be there <br />
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see this game going over steelers will score and the cards will also score this is a power offense as much as the colts and chargers who both scored pitt +20 pts and their D...

Three Jack
01-19-2009, 03:27 PM
Pitt 24
AZ 21

10DimeBry
01-19-2009, 03:56 PM
there we be NO defense in this game what so ever.

10DimeBry
01-19-2009, 03:57 PM
pitt 38

arizona 24

WayneChung
01-19-2009, 06:21 PM
guys,IMO,this game hedges on whether warner can get enough protection from his line to throw the ball,you saw how good he looked first half when he was getting time and also how bad second half when philly turned up the heat !!

Dat Boi E
01-19-2009, 07:54 PM
Pitt!

savage1
01-20-2009, 12:53 AM
I am going to do an about face here.
I didn't give Arizona much chance against Philadelphia.
My first instinct was to choose Pitt. here for a variety of reasons.
However, funny things can happen in the short term when a team gets on a roll.
If the Giants can defeat New England in the SP, who is to say that another NFC team can't win again this year
I say 20-17 Arizona.

moondog22
01-20-2009, 01:13 PM
I'm staying with the dogs,Arizona

bryce
01-20-2009, 02:58 PM
I am trying to get over the fact that two big plays won the game for Pitt. Holmes TD and Polomalu's INT. Pitt's other scores were three FG's. Arizona has been stout in their playoff games and literally manhandled Carolina and Philly in the first half. I am liking Arizona to cover this. I expect Arizona to test the airways frequesntly in this one. They have nothing to lose.

ravenmaniac
01-20-2009, 07:22 PM
I think the key to this game is Arizona's offensive line. If Pittsburgh starts getting to Warner he will start getting happy feet and turn the ball over. If he gets protection Arizona will win because I don't think Pittsburgh can keep up in a shoot out. Right now I am leaning to the Steelers getting to Warner.

vondie
01-21-2009, 10:25 AM
Eagles D was ranked 3 in the league behind the steelers and ravens. If AZ can move the ball that well especially running it, against the eagles, I don't see why they can't against the steelers. AZ also proved themselves after bouncing back with a 14 play drive after going down. Love the points....like AZ straight up.

DBURGH
01-21-2009, 11:32 PM
The Steelers D is one that nearly set a record that has never been done before,,,to finish 1st in rushing, passing and total D. This may well be the best Defense ever. However, one problem with the 3-4 defense, if teams can consistantly hit the quick short routes it causes fits. Or should I say Fitz. New England knows how to handle the Steelers D, thank god we didn't have to lose to them again in a playoff game. Let's see if Wiz learned anything when New England used to pick us apart. If Arizona tries to run the ball against this team, let's say 20 times or more, they lose. If they pass on every down, then they stand a chance of winning this one and pulling off the upset.

mavskidd02
01-21-2009, 11:43 PM
Totally against what the line and O/U indicate this game will be. I think Pitt wins 27-20

kokopuff
01-22-2009, 06:22 AM
az is gonna win outright.....so,,,, find a prop with the odds you like vs the points youre willing to give,,,,,
im gonna take az -7 for something large like plus 500 or whatever i can find::kb

jcheckers
01-22-2009, 11:07 AM
az is gonna win outright.....so,,,, find a prop with the odds you like vs the points youre willing to give,,,,,
im gonna take az -7 for something large like plus 500 or whatever i can find::kb

Super Bowl XLIII - Margin of Victory
Future Odds Status
2/1/2009 - Super Bowl XLIII - Margin of Victory
Steelers Win By 04-07 pts 4-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 01-03 pts 5-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 08-11 pts 5-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 01-03 pts 6-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 12-15 pts 6-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 04-07 pts 8-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 16-19 pts 12-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 20-23 pts 15-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 24-27 pts 15-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 08-11 pts 18-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 28-31 pts 20-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 12-15 pts 25-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 32-35 pts 30-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 36-39 pts 40-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 40 or more 40-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 16-19 pts 50-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 20-23 pts 50-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 24-27 pts 75-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 28-31 pts 75-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 32-35 pts 75-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 36-39 pts 100-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 40 or more 100-1 In Progress
Last Updated: January 22, 2009 10:00:47 AM EST



I Like Cards to Win By 8-11 pts 18-1
:thumbsup:

harold_bush
01-22-2009, 11:35 AM
Super Bowl XLIII - Margin of Victory
Future Odds Status
2/1/2009 - Super Bowl XLIII - Margin of Victory
Steelers Win By 04-07 pts 4-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 01-03 pts 5-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 08-11 pts 5-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 01-03 pts 6-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 12-15 pts 6-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 04-07 pts 8-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 16-19 pts 12-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 20-23 pts 15-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 24-27 pts 15-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 08-11 pts 18-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 28-31 pts 20-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 12-15 pts 25-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 32-35 pts 30-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 36-39 pts 40-1 In Progress
Steelers Win By 40 or more 40-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 16-19 pts 50-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 20-23 pts 50-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 24-27 pts 75-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 28-31 pts 75-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 32-35 pts 75-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 36-39 pts 100-1 In Progress
Cards Win By 40 or more 100-1 In Progress
Last Updated: January 22, 2009 10:00:47 AM EST



I Like Cards to Win By 8-11 pts 18-1
:thumbsup:

I think those bets are crazy. I can understand thinking Zona wins, but to pick the game within 4 points seems like a poor bet. No issues with taking Zona -7 for a chance at a big hit, and that means they can win by 8 of 28 and you win, but to specifically pick Zona to win within 4 points of the actual score.....not so much. It seems like the odds should be higher to have to be that specific.

kokopuff
01-23-2009, 05:58 AM
this is damn good point...if you bet the 8-11,,,and it ends az by 7,,,you should still collect the 8-1 money as opposed to the 18-1 money...im sure its gotta work that way.

crazy1464
01-23-2009, 11:17 PM
as much as i want to see arizona win at 8-8. i think pitt will show them why they are the #1 defense. the steeler defense never breaks. steelers win this 31-17

jbaker1564
01-24-2009, 12:39 AM
Kurt Warner, it is time to retire...
http://i40.tinypic.com/2nks4s4.jpg

mavskidd02
01-24-2009, 01:15 AM
this is damn good point...if you bet the 8-11,,,and it ends az by 7,,,you should still collect the 8-1 money as opposed to the 18-1 money...im sure its gotta work that way.

If it did, why would anyone ever bet the 8-1 if you can bet the 18-1 and still win the 8-1. Not sure what you mean koko

DIRK
01-24-2009, 06:22 PM
31-24 Cards,
Lets see Pitt play against a real offense not to mention they won't be at home in cold, snowy conditions. Don't forget the Ravens were injured, had a rookie QB on the road in a title game. Ravens couldn't pass or run the ball against them but were in the game late in the 4th quarter, this time no bail out pick for a td by Pitt's secondary.
Rememba what the NE offense did to the Steelers late in the season in 07.
Cards have those kind of receivers & a QB thats very accurate & plays well in big games.
Cards Win By 04-07 pts 8-1.

CashMoney
01-25-2009, 12:59 AM
Pitt superbowl 3 years ago against a nfc west team pitt wins superbowl and ****** i was at the game to see it first hand!! 3 years later pitt back in the superbowl against what do you know a nfc west team and -6.5 to win the game. What do we know about nfc west teams??? Nfc west teams are known for having decent offense's top 15 in the league there also known for having weak defenses last 20-30 in the league. I believe that arizona has made the superbowl by just pure luck and the 2 gloves that kurt warner wears when hes throwing the ball!! Pitt plays some of the toughest teams in the nfl , they play balt/tenn/jax 3 of the leagues best defense's twice a year, they play indy,jets,sd,new eng, almost every year atleast once, arizona never faces defenses like this i mean philly ok but they only show up every other week. I expect pitt to win this game and put it away in a early fashion rip arizonas hearts out quick!!!!!!!!!!!

Cash money super bowl pick- pitt -6.5

good luck and cash in!!!!!!!!

fuzzebear
01-25-2009, 11:26 AM
Steelers had the hardest schedule in NFL history and here they are in the Super Bowl. I am rooting for the Cards but just don't see the Steelers losing.

aces r wild
01-25-2009, 12:41 PM
Being a Raven's fan i would love to see the Cardinals kick the Steelers ass.
But, i can't see it happening. Defense wins Championships. Steelers roll 34-13!

harold_bush
01-26-2009, 05:24 PM
Pitt superbowl 3 years ago against a nfc west team pitt wins superbowl and ****** i was at the game to see it first hand!! 3 years later pitt back in the superbowl against what do you know a nfc west team and -6.5 to win the game. What do we know about nfc west teams??? Nfc west teams are known for having decent offense's top 15 in the league there also known for having weak defenses last 20-30 in the league. I believe that arizona has made the superbowl by just pure luck and the 2 gloves that kurt warner wears when hes throwing the ball!! Pitt plays some of the toughest teams in the nfl , they play balt/tenn/jax 3 of the leagues best defense's twice a year, they play indy,jets,sd,new eng, almost every year atleast once, arizona never faces defenses like this i mean philly ok but they only show up every other week. I expect pitt to win this game and put it away in a early fashion rip arizonas hearts out quick!!!!!!!!!!!

Cash money super bowl pick- pitt -6.5

good luck and cash in!!!!!!!!


Those also qualify as three of the worst offensive teams in the league as well..........kinda cuts both ways.

flarendep1
01-26-2009, 05:27 PM
When I posted, the majority was big on Arizona, now the majority is swinging over to Pittsburgh. People are starting to see the light.

harold_bush
01-26-2009, 05:28 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that not too many people picked the poor old Giants last year against "one of the best teams in NFL history," and the only team in NFL history to go 16-0 in the regular season. 14 point doggie wins outright. I think the big favorites kind of get fat and full of themselves during the two weeks leading up to the Super Bowl. Meanwhile the disrespected team gets pissed off and works that much harder. Most people still aren't giving Zona a chance, and I think that works to their advantage.

Pulling for Zona to win, but don't care if they lose as long as they don't lose by 8 or more!

Spearit
01-27-2009, 02:29 PM
I saw this from another site. Thought it might make a few points in this thread.

Interesting super bowl stats
i'm layed off this week & got bored today so i did some research & looked at the boxscore from every superbowl & looked at how teams did SU & ATS if they won certain statistical categories in the game. here's what i found. first number is SU & second is ATS. didn't bother looking up spread numbers with a few of the categories.

team that scores 1st 27-15

team that leads at half 32-8 (2 ties at half)

favs of 3 or less 5-4 / 5-4

favs 3.5-7 pts 15-2/ 10-6-1

favs 7.5-11 pts 5-1/ 5-1

favs 11.5 or more 6-4/ 4-5-1

team most rush yds 35-7/ 31-9-2

team most pass yds 22-20/ 23-17-1

team most rush attempts 36-4/ 34-4-2

team that wins TO battle 30-3/ 26-6-1

team more sacks 27-11/ 22-16

team least penalties 17-22

teams with less than 20 rush attempts 1-16/ 2-13-2

teams with 25 or less rush attempts 3-26/ 3-24-2

teams with less than 30 rush attempts 3-30/ 3-28-2

teams under 100 yards rushing 5-25/ 5-23-2

if team wins TO & sack battle 15-3 ATS

37 of 42 superbowls at least one team had 30+ rush attempts

teams that rush for 120 yds + are 23-3-1 ATS (6 times both teams met this threshold)

11 dogs have won SU

11 of 11 had more rush attempts

10 of 11 had more rush yds

only exception was superbowl 3 when baltimore had 1 more yd than the jets

only superbowl where neither team had 100 + yds rushing was last years patriots/giants game

jcindaville
01-27-2009, 05:11 PM
I will take the Defense in the title game everytime.

Warner is an amazing cat, and Fitz is incredible, but I dont think that is enough to beat argueably the best D ever.

JMO

The Steelers schedule this year was sick
Baltimore 3 times
NE
Philly
SD twice
Giants
Indy
Tenn
Cowboys

They have faced some damn good teams and i dont think they will be too full of themselves, this is a grind it out smash mouth football team. They will bring their lunch boxes and be workmen like in their effort.

Pitt 26 Zona 17

flarendep1
01-27-2009, 11:54 PM
I will take the Defense in the title game everytime.

Warner is an amazing cat, and Fitz is incredible, but I dont think that is enough to beat argueably the best D ever.

JMO

The Steelers schedule this year was sick
Baltimore 3 times
NE
Philly
SD twice
Giants
Indy
Tenn
Cowboys

They have faced some damn good teams and i dont think they will be too full of themselves, this is a grind it out smash mouth football team. They will bring their lunch boxes and be workmen like in their effort.

Pitt 26 Zona 17






I agree but best Defense ever goes to the 2000 Baltimore Ravens with Ray Lewis in his prime. :clapping:



2000 Baltimore Ravens

Ray Lewis' Ravens roughed up the Giants in Super Bowl XXXV.
In the past quarter-century, only one defense has held opponents to fewer than 11 points per game. That team? Ray Lewis' Ravens. In 2000, Baltimore set NFL records for fewest points allowed (165) and fewest yards rushing allowed (970) in a 16-game schedule. This stat is sick 60 YPG rushing allowed.



In addition to Lewis, who eventually was named Super Bowl MVP, Baltimore's defense boasted safety Rod Woodson, who was named to the NFL's 75th Anniversary All-Time Team.

During the regular season, the Ravens shut out four opponents, then got better in the playoffs, allowing a total of only 23 points in four games, including their 34-7 victory over the Giants in the Super Bowl. Even though they had a relatively easy regular-season schedule (opponents had only a .428 winning percentage), their playoff performance was outstanding.

As ESPN's John Clayton wrote last year, "The Ravens have that rare ability to reach into the chest of an opposing offense, remove its heart, squeeze it and return it to victims like a deflated football."


Also:
That 34-7 beat down of the Giants would have been a shutout if their special teams did not give up the kick return TD for the Giants.

jcindaville
01-28-2009, 12:00 AM
I agree but best Defense ever goes to the 2000 Baltimore Ravens with Ray Lewis in his prime. :clapping:



2000 Baltimore Ravens

Ray Lewis' Ravens roughed up the Giants in Super Bowl XXXV.
In the past quarter-century, only one defense has held opponents to fewer than 11 points per game. That team? Ray Lewis' Ravens. In 2000, Baltimore set NFL records for fewest points allowed (165) and fewest yards rushing allowed (970) in a 16-game schedule. This stat is sick 60 YPG rushing allowed.



In addition to Lewis, who eventually was named Super Bowl MVP, Baltimore's defense boasted safety Rod Woodson, who was named to the NFL's 75th Anniversary All-Time Team.

During the regular season, the Ravens shut out four opponents, then got better in the playoffs, allowing a total of only 23 points in four games, including their 34-7 victory over the Giants in the Super Bowl. Even though they had a relatively easy regular-season schedule (opponents had only a .428 winning percentage), their playoff performance was outstanding.

As ESPN's John Clayton wrote last year, "The Ravens have that rare ability to reach into the chest of an opposing offense, remove its heart, squeeze it and return it to victims like a deflated football."


Also:
That 34-7 beat down of the Giants would have been a shutout if their special teams did not give up the kick return TD for the Giants.

No doubt a very great D, cant say who is better because we havent finished this year yet.

That Raven D could have been the best D ever, no doubt. We will leave it to others to decide who is the best.

All I know, is that there is some fucking D played in the AFC North:clapping::clapping::clapping: Smash mouth motherfucker:clapping::clapping:

flarendep1
01-28-2009, 12:06 AM
No doubt a very great D, cant say who is better because we havent finished this year yet.

That Raven D could have been the best D ever, no doubt. We will leave it to others to decide who is the best.

All I know, is that there is some fucking D played in the AFC North:clapping::clapping::clapping: Smash mouth motherfucker:clapping::clapping:



Wilis McGahee can testify to that!:crazy:

jcindaville
01-28-2009, 12:07 AM
I will never forgive Rod Woodson

I hope he catches herpes for playing for the Ravens

jcindaville
01-28-2009, 12:07 AM
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Wilis McGahee can testify to that!:crazy:

:red::red:

Dont dance in our endzone again boy:clapping::clapping:Or your ass will get carted off:red::red:

jcindaville
01-28-2009, 12:09 AM
I honestly hate the Ravens because they are so fucking good.... I really didnt want to play you again....


Fuckers hit hard and play for 60 minutes


Great rivalry, second to none

NEJAKE
01-29-2009, 01:21 AM
I've been pondering this game for a week and a half now...leaning towards pitt first and have decided to take the points and ride the cardinals. I think this will be an entertaining superbowl and will be a close game and won by a FG or less! Good Luck!!!!

DenJamTuck
01-31-2009, 03:38 PM
The key will be the 2 week layoff ,and how Ari preformed in the 2nd half of the Philly game giving up a big lead...Pit -31 Ari -20

poskid
01-31-2009, 09:25 PM
The key will be the 2 week layoff ,and how Ari preformed in the 2nd half of the Philly game giving up a big lead...Pit -31 Ari -20

No offense bud but if Zona gets out early Pitt doesnt have anywhere near the firepower offensively as Philly.This game is going to either be Warner on his ass all day and Pitt grinding out the clock or it's going to be Zona getting out early and then Pitt HAVING to throw the ball which Rothlisgerger isnt the greatest at.

I think this game is easily a field goal at best most of the time.

PK

savage1
02-01-2009, 11:16 AM
I know I probably can't change my tallied vote, but for the record I am going to change my prediction from Arizona and under to Pitt. and over.
I thought about it, and just have a hunch that it will be an off day for Arizona, and that it is Pitt's year.
Final score prediction Pit 34 Arizona 14 with a late score by one of the two teams edging the game over the total.
ps I am not for being that great with predictions, so don't bet you house on it, but that is my final opinion.

Powerplaypicks
02-01-2009, 03:32 PM
Arizona is the play here. I think Pitts' defense and AZs' offense cancel each other out but I think AZs' Defense is better than Pitts' offense so I will gladly take AZ +7.

Rock 33
02-01-2009, 04:20 PM
Defense usually wins out in these games..... and the pointpsread usually doesn't come into play either. having said that I am taking Pittsburgh -6.5 with just an opinion on the OVER 46.5

Pitt -30
Ariz- 20

:partying:

LeRoy
02-01-2009, 06:48 PM
Pitt 34
Ariz 20
This game could get really ugly for the Cards