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Three Jack
08-08-2008, 02:46 PM
You turn down an opportunity to go play 3 months for the Red Sox with a great chance at winning the World Series because you don't want to leave home? Concerned about playing time??? Are you freakin' kidding me???? You are an IDIOT!!!

I don't care if you are from SD...that is why teams like the Pods will never win because winning is not important to guys who are playing everyday. Only concerned about being in the lineup everyday. Turning down a chance for a WS ring to stay home for three months...unbelievable!:dontknow:

This says a lot about the ballplayer and, if I am SD, no way I would honor the '09 team option. Let him go play for a team like KC where he can collect his paycheck and no one will care. :angry3:

DDP713
08-08-2008, 03:20 PM
You turn down an opportunity to go play 3 months for the Red Sox with a great chance at winning the World Series because you don't want to leave home? Concerned about playing time??? Are you freakin' kidding me???? You are an IDIOT!!!

I don't care if you are from SD...that is why teams like the Pods will never win because winning is not important to guys who are playing everyday. Only concerned about being in the lineup everyday. Turning down a chance for a WS ring to stay home for three months...unbelievable!:dontknow:

This says a lot about the ballplayer and, if I am SD, no way I would honor the '09 team option. Let him go play for a team like KC where he can collect his paycheck and no one will care. :angry3:

:clapping: Great decision! this wouldve been a prettty big blow to my NL only fantasy team, especially since I have 3 transactions left for the year......but if im brian giles I would be in Boston right now...

savage1
08-08-2008, 03:41 PM
Perhaps the real reason for his nixing the trade is that Brian is content to continue to wallow in easy-to -play cites like San Diego (and prior to that Pittsburgh) and is fearful of stepping up to a real challenge of playing for a team like the Red Sox, where virtually every move he makes, every strike, every hit, every out, etc. will be subject to severe scrutiny by the fans and press.

kbsooner21
08-08-2008, 03:45 PM
He knows the Red Sox aren't going anywhere anyway and is holding our for a better offer next year imo.

knowlez
08-08-2008, 03:55 PM
I rather play for the Royals then the Padres

frankb03
08-08-2008, 03:56 PM
You turn down an opportunity to go play 3 months for the Red Sox with a great chance at winning the World Series because you don't want to leave home? Concerned about playing time??? Are you freakin' kidding me???? You are an IDIOT!!!

KUDOS Brian Giles!

It's refreshing to see an athlete have his priorities set. He didn't want to leave his family. He's putting his family above all. I can't fault him. Most would have jumped at the opportunity. Giles probably has more than enough money to live comfortably the rest of his life.

He was also concerned about playing time. For some playing is more fun than winning. How is sitting on the bench fun? I don't care how good the team is. I can't fault him. If I had to choose between playing FT for a losing team or PT for a winning team I'd choose FT every time.

BigMike
08-08-2008, 03:57 PM
I hear San Diego is nice this time of year

savage1
08-08-2008, 03:57 PM
He knows the Red Sox aren't going anywhere anyway and is holding our for a better offer next year imo.
It seems to me that if Giles is oriented monetarily(a big if), came to Boston and did well, the Sox might offer him a lot more than most teams could and would irrespective of whether team made the playoffs or not.
If money is not the sole motive, then in view of Red Sox's successes of late and their bright future, most players would jump at the prospect of playing for the Sox as opposed to playing for a team and players who more likely than not will be going home at the end September for seasons in the forseeable future.
On the other hand and in all fairness, if he is and his family are simply comfortable in San Diego, then I can certainly understand his thinking and respect that-there is more to life than playing on a WS winner and making tons of money.

frankb03
08-08-2008, 04:13 PM
On the other hand and in all fairness, if he is and his family are simply comfortable in San Diego, then I can certainly understand his thinking and respect that-there is more to life than playing on a WS winner and making tons of money.

BINGO!

frankb03
08-08-2008, 04:17 PM
is fearful of stepping up to a real challenge of playing for a team like the Red Sox, where virtually every move he makes, every strike, every hit, every out, etc. will be subject to severe scrutiny by the fans and press.

Do you think at that level they're fearful? I'd have to think at that level they've got huge egos and feel they can conquer the world. Many have tried and failed coming into a heavily scrutinized situation.

savage1
08-08-2008, 04:31 PM
Do you think at that level they're fearful? I'd have to think at that level they've got huge egos and feel they can conquer the world. Many have tried and failed coming into a heavily scrutinized situation.
Maybe fearful is too strong a word-lets put it this way, at this stage of his career, he is content to be doing what he is currently doing, and from his point of view, which is all that really matters, he doesn't want to put his feeling of contentment at risk;if I am correct in my assessment, then again I respect that.
Giles and for that matter any athlete should answer to himself and family first.
What I said in the other posts applies ONLY if career and money come first.

kslab28liver
08-08-2008, 04:47 PM
I think old man savage would inhale the entire Boston Redsox starting lineup:red: :red:

frankb03
08-08-2008, 04:49 PM
Maybe fearful is too strong a word-lets put it this way, at this stage of his career, he is content to be doing what he is currently doing, and from his point of view, which is all that really matters, he doesn't want to put his feeling of contentment at risk;.

I agree 100%

knowlez
08-08-2008, 04:50 PM
I think old man savage would inhale the entire Boston Redsox starting lineup:red: :red: Could you explain in detail :red: :red: :red:

frankb03
08-08-2008, 04:52 PM
Giles and for that matter any athlete should answer to himself and family first.


I also agree with this statement 1,000%

Family and children have to come first.

savage1
08-08-2008, 05:24 PM
This is far fetched and a little off topic, but if were younger and ever fulfilled a life long dream of playing for the Red Sox, and had a no trade clause in my contract, I would refuse to go to any other American League team.
As a diehard, I simply cant' imagine myself trying to make outs or errors against a team I had wildly rooted for all of my life.
I would allow myself to be traded to an NL team however.
If I were indeed traded to an NL team and that team played the Sox in Interleague or in the WS, I would pull a "Manny" and opt out but instead faking an injury, I would tell the truth and claim "mental depression" as the reason for not playing.:red: :red:

10DimeBry
08-08-2008, 05:26 PM
Giles is a average player at best now anyhow. if he wants to stay in SD fine. Thats not the decision i'd make but hey if thats good with him so be it.

Three Jack
08-08-2008, 05:39 PM
I don't care if he comes to the Sox or not...but guys (Frank/Savage)...we are talking 2 months and maybe 3 if they make the playoffs and win the Series!!! Refreshing?!?!?!?! He has a club option for next year at $9 million. First, there is no guarantee SD wants him back next year. Second, he could negotiate dropping/reducing the buyout from $3 million to ensure the Sox don't pick it up. Third, he could resign with SD next year as a FA!! IT IS 2-3 MONTHS!!!!

Now, maybe he has family issues or something and if that is the case, then I am out of line. But why would you EVER tunr down an opportunity to play in a town for 2-3 months with an opportunity to win a WS, especially when your career is almost over and you have never won?!?!??!?!

Three Jack
08-08-2008, 05:40 PM
This is far fetched and a little off topic, but if were younger and ever fulfilled a life long dream of playing for the Red Sox, and had a no trade clause in my contract, I would refuse to go to any other American League team.
As a diehard, I simply cant' imagine myself trying to make outs or errors against a team I had wildly rooted for all of my life.
I would allow myself to be traded to an NL team however.
If I were indeed traded to an NL team and that team played the Sox in Interleague or in the WS, I would pull a "Manny" and opt out but instead faking an injury, I would tell the truth and claim "mental depression" as the reason for not playing.:red: :red:

We are talking 2-3 months...not he rest of a long term contract.

savage1
08-08-2008, 05:44 PM
We are talking 2-3 months...not he rest of a long term contract.
I agree with you-I was talking about a more permanent move.

ctt8410
08-08-2008, 07:21 PM
I'm still not totally convinced that the Red Sox actually wanted Giles. They just didn't want him playing for the Rays.

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 07:26 PM
I'm still not totally convinced that the Red Sox actually wanted Giles. They just didn't want him playing for the Rays.


I agree 100%

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 07:41 PM
Maybe the Phillies can get Giles for Jenkins:red: :red: :red:

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 07:44 PM
Maybe the Phillies can get Giles for Jenkins:red: :red: :red:


I thought you would be more of the Giles for Howard type ......

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 07:53 PM
I thought you would be more of the Giles for Howard type ......

I'm ok with Howard now...I did some extensive research of this team so far this season and K How has actually been one of the better hitters IMO...other guys (Jenkins, Ruiz, etc and and one in particular I won't mention cuz you'll rip on me) are having unstellar seasons.

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 07:57 PM
I did some extensive research of this team so far this season and K How has actually been one of the better hitters IMO


OMG ... I'm going to fucken kill you! :red: :red:


You could have saved yourself some work and listened to us!

"IMO" :scream: :dontknow:

ctt8410
08-08-2008, 08:01 PM
I'm ok with Howard now...I did some extensive research of this team so far this season and K How has actually been one of the better hitters IMO...other guys (Jenkins, Ruiz, etc and and one in particular I won't mention cuz you'll rip on me) are having unstellar seasons.

Oh, c'mon. You can't leave us hanging like that. I'll guess Rollins since he's sucked this year.

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 08:08 PM
Oh, c'mon. You can't leave us hanging like that. I'll guess Rollins since he's sucked this year.

Lol, his #s are obviously terrible, but I think last year was an aberation so a season like that for him will never happen again IMO.

The guy I'm referring to is Utley...I know, I know, he is hitting .292 with 28 HRs and 78 RBIs.

Before you jump down my throat, chk these numbers out:

Utley is batting .268 since May 1st
Utley is batting .246 w/RISP
Utley is batting .211 w/RISP + 2 outs

Say what you want about the HRs and RBIs, but after I thought about it, I would rather have a guy who hits .240 (K How) but hits .320 w/RISP than a guy who hits .292 but hits .246 w/RISP not to mention the brutal .211 w/RISP + 2 outs.

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 08:25 PM
Oh, c'mon. You can't leave us hanging like that. I'll guess Rollins since he's sucked this year.


My thoughts were the same as yours. I would guess Rollins but you know what? I knew he was going to say Utley and i was 100% correct. Why? ... because he is LVJimmy!

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 08:28 PM
My thoughts were the same as yours. I would guess Rollins but you know what? I knew he was going to say Utley and i was 100% correct. Why? ... because he is LVJimmy!

I posted why...u don't agree?

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 08:29 PM
I posted why...u don't agree?

I bet i can name 31 teams other than Philly that would take him in a heartbeat! :)

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 08:30 PM
I bet i can name 31 teams other than Philly that would take him in a heartbeat! :)
I'm sure they would, but that being said, his #s w/RISP and since May 1st overall are not good.

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 08:32 PM
I'm sure they would, but that being said, his #s w/RISP and since May 1st overall are not good.


The same can probably be said for many Superstars in the game right now.

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 08:32 PM
The same can probably be said for many Superstars in the game right now.


Besides, if he knocks himself in, who cares if anyone is on base?

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 08:32 PM
I bet i can name 31 teams other than Philly that would take him in a heartbeat! :)

For me, I look at Rollins differently than I do Utley...I think Rollins' season last year was an aberation, but I think Utley should be hitting like he did last year (.332)...btw, he hit .304 w/RISP last year and .362 w/RISP + 2 outs last year.

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 08:33 PM
The same can probably be said for many Superstars in the game right now.

Yea, it does seem like offensive #s are down this season.

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 08:40 PM
Yea, it does seem like offensive #s are down this season.


If you want to call out a Philly, Rollins, the defending MVP would be a great target that i would have no problem with. If you want to talk about lack of offense, how about starting with the MVP who sets the table. He has been brutal this year (IMO).

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 08:49 PM
If you want to call out a Philly, Rollins, the defending MVP would be a great target that i would have no problem with. If you want to talk about lack of offense, how about starting with the MVP who sets the table. He has been brutal this year (IMO).
No doubt, and to make it worse, it seems his attitude is all "me, me, me" this year...like I said, last year was an aberation for him IMO so I didn't expect anything close this year. He is the #1 reason though that this offense is down this year as compared to last year.

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 08:52 PM
No doubt, and to make it worse, it seems his attitude is all "me, me, me" this year...like I said, last year was an aberation for him IMO so I didn't expect anything close this year. He is the #1 reason though that this offense is down this year as compared to last year.



It wasn't just last year. His last 2 years were very solid and his average the last 4 years was around .280-.290. His numbers are WAY down and he has been benched for not hustling too. Overall, it has been a very poor year for Rollins and it baffles me that you have ignored him and picked on the 2 studs on the team. I never will understand your thinking i guess! lol


You should be ripping Rollins a new ASSSSS! :)

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 08:53 PM
It wasn't just last year. His last 2 years were very solid and his average the last 4 years was around .280-.290. His numbers are WAY down and he has been benched for not hustling too. Overall, it has been a very poor year for Rollins and it baffles me that you have ignored him and picked on the 2 studs on the team. I never will understand your thinking i guess! lol


You should be ripping Rollins a new ASSSSS! :)
I guess I don't think Rollins is that great to begin with so I cut him slack.

He does deserve to get hammered and he has been (just not by me...lol)

This team is now scoreles in 15 straight innings.

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 08:58 PM
Make that 16 straight scoreless innings and Utley is now 0-2 w/RISP tonight.

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 09:08 PM
17 scoreless innings

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 09:22 PM
Back to the thread topic...I'd like to see Giles in a Phillies uniform.

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 09:27 PM
18 scoreless innings

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 09:54 PM
19 scoreless innings

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 10:27 PM
On the bright side, Blanton pitched a gem tonight. Pitching 7 innings of 1 hit ball is pretty impressive. That is a good sign for Philly!

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 10:29 PM
On the bright side, Blanton pitched a gem tonight. Pitching 7 innings of 1 hit ball is pretty impressive. That is a good sign for Philly!
He's looked great the last 2 games...his pitches tonight were moving like crazy.

This team would be scary if they could hit while Blanton and Myers seem to be pitching better lately.

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 10:33 PM
Why are they walking your boy if he is so bad with RISP??? :hahaha:

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 10:34 PM
Why are they walking your boy if he is so bad with RISP??? :hahaha:

Walking the bases loaded to get righty vs. righty.

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 10:35 PM
Why are they walking your boy if he is so bad with RISP??? :hahaha:
You can't think that .246 is good right?

wayne1218
08-08-2008, 10:35 PM
Walking the bases loaded to get righty vs. righty.


Walking the bases loaded to avoid letting Utley or Howard beat you. That's really what that was all about! lol

LVJimmy
08-08-2008, 10:36 PM
Walking the bases loaded to avoid letting Utley or Howard beat you. That's really what that was all about! lol
Lol, sorry, it wasnt