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KJ1000
08-21-2007, 02:38 PM
Miami makes 'sad decision' to move from Orange Bowl to Dolphin Stadium
Aug. 21, 2007
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports




CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Miami will play home football games at Dolphin Stadium starting in 2008, leaving the historic but decaying Orange Bowl after seven decades.

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The university's trustees decided Tuesday to make the much-debated move, which could generate $2 million or more in extra revenue annually for the Hurricanes' athletic department. City officials unsuccessfully tried to keep Miami at the Orange Bowl by promising $206 million in upgrades.

"This is a painful and sad decision," Miami president Donna Shalala said.

The Hurricanes agreed to a 25-year lease with Dolphin Stadium.

Miami first played at the Orange Bowl, about eight miles from its campus, in 1937. The Hurricanes won three national championship games on that field, had an NCAA-record 58-game home winning streak from 1985 through 1994 and have drawn more than 17 million fans there over the years.

But the stadium's facade is rusting, upgrades are needed and the building lacks many amenities that modern stadiums have -- such as the luxury suites and video replay screens that helped lure Miami to the home of the Dolphins.


The 'Canes won almost 70 percent of their games played at the historic Orange Bowl. (Getty Images)
"The move to the stadium and the superior facilities that it offers will greatly enhance our recruiting efforts," Miami coach Randy Shannon said.

With the Hurricanes set to depart, the Orange Bowl will no longer have a primary tenant. The Dolphins moved to the facility first known as Joe Robbie Stadium in 1987, and the Orange Bowl -- one of college football's marquee and best-known bowl games -- moved to Dolphin Stadium in 1996.

And that means the building's future is in serious doubt. The site has been mentioned as a possible new home for the Florida Marlins, or the stadium could simply be knocked down.

Miami has won nearly 70 percent of its games at the Orange Bowl, a place where opponents routinely acknowledged feeling intimidated by the crowds and game-time atmosphere.

"It got to be very tough to hear and tough to communicate down there. That's what made it difficult to play in," said Florida State coach Bobby Bowden, who brought his Seminoles to the building nearly two dozen times over the years.

The Orange Bowl opened in 1937 and has hosted Super Bowls, a famous speech by President John F. Kennedy to Cuban exiles after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, concerts, boxing and even Olympic soccer matches in 1996.

Many of the university's existing Orange Bowl traditions -- including the smoke-filled tunnel for pregame introductions and the Miami ring of honor -- will be moved to Dolphin Stadium.

The city's stadium refurbishment plan was met with skepticism by some within the university, since much of the needed money would have to come from grants and tax credits that haven't been secured.

Still, some fans continued lobbying until the end, with more than 4,000 signing an online petition in recent weeks imploring the university to stay put, and others organizing small rallies in hope of getting trustees to change their mind.

"The city of Miami made an extraordinary effort to identify funds and design a renovation," Shalala said. "But in the end, it wasn't enough."

Miami's lease at the Orange Bowl runs past 2008, but the school will be able to move next fall -- meaning the last scheduled game for the Hurricanes at the facility will be Nov. 10 against Virginia.

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TwoTonTony
08-21-2007, 02:45 PM
The Orange Bowl is a dump....they do not draw...they get no alumni support......It is nothing like the tradition of the midwest and SCC schools.....At least they will have a better chance to draw from Lauderdale and West Palm there.....I mean the OC is in a rough rough area...and traffic sucks...

Good move

TMAC951
08-21-2007, 04:07 PM
I think its a good move as well.. The university is in a very very nice neighborhood but the stadium itself is straight in the hood.. If you cant park in the parking lot at the stadium (Which is very fucking small) then your ass is fresh out of fucking luck :red: park on the side of the road and hope to GOD that you shit dont get jacked :red:

Dead Presidents
08-21-2007, 04:15 PM
is a fughin dump-Good move:dontknow: :dontknow: :clapping:

The Lovedoc
08-21-2007, 04:19 PM
Great move! I had season tickets with a buddy of mine for a year and never decided to go back again because i had to park my car on some guatomalin's back yard... Didn't feel safe at all! Now, i will go to a game or 2

10DimeBry
08-21-2007, 04:23 PM
i wouldnt go down their either bro. F that

TMAC951
08-21-2007, 04:30 PM
Miami's lease at the Orange Bowl runs past 2008, but the school will be able to move next fall -- meaning the last scheduled game for the Hurricanes at the facility will be Nov. 10 against Virginia.

Im gonna lay some serious wood on the Canes here.. They will want to go out in style.. We will crush Virginia BANK DAT! :partying: :clapping:

kbsooner21
08-21-2007, 04:40 PM
Bank this, Thug U will get smacked around like a bunch of bitches come September 8th!

TwoTonTony
08-21-2007, 04:48 PM
Who is gonna reimburse the Guatamalean for his lost parking revenue and stero lifting business?

kbsooner21
08-21-2007, 04:49 PM
Bank this, Thug U will get smacked around like a bunch of bitches come September 8th!
Bump for Mac! Wanna wager :evilg:

weazel079
08-21-2007, 04:51 PM
Bump for Mac! Wanna wager :evilg:

what do you think the line will be on this one?

10DimeBry
08-21-2007, 04:52 PM
I'd say OU -6

weazel079
08-21-2007, 04:53 PM
I'd say OU -6

I'd take the thugs and the points.

10DimeBry
08-21-2007, 04:57 PM
I'd take the thugs and the points.

i think it will be less than 7 but more than 3. 3.5- 6pts i think the line will be

TMAC951
08-21-2007, 05:01 PM
Bump for Mac! Wanna wager :evilg:

Give me some points and we may can discuss something :red: :feedback:

10DimeBry
08-21-2007, 05:02 PM
i set the line TMAC. its OU -6


forget what vegas says. this is BC.


OU -6

TMAC951
08-21-2007, 05:04 PM
i set the line TMAC. its OU -6


forget what vegas says. this is BC.


OU -6

:red: :red:

The Lovedoc
08-21-2007, 05:07 PM
no way...

OU will be favored by atleast 10 pts...

OU -10
CaNES

thats's the bet

TMAC951
08-21-2007, 05:09 PM
no way...

OU will be favored by atleast 10 pts...

OU -10
CaNES

thats's the bet

I will take dat and meet you at the pay window :red:

kbsooner21
08-21-2007, 05:20 PM
I'm down for OU -6 :feedback:

The Lovedoc
09-03-2007, 10:33 AM
no way...

OU will be favored by atleast 10 pts...

OU -10
CaNES

thats's the bet



I hate to say i told ya so........but, i told you so!! :red: :red:

TMAC951
09-03-2007, 10:35 AM
I hate to say i told ya so........but, i told you so!! :red: :red:

Its 11 right now so your ass is wrong :red: :red:

The Lovedoc
09-03-2007, 10:45 AM
Its 11 right now so your ass is wrong :red: :red:


well...it opened at 10... so i was right! People were saying 6.....no freakin way man...

TMAC951
09-03-2007, 10:46 AM
well...it opened at 10... so i was right! People were saying 6.....no freakin way man...

Ive got a bet with kb at 10.

Kaptain
09-03-2007, 10:59 AM
LoveDoc, you're right on the money.....

Line opened up at -10 1/2, and is now at -10......

good job Dimer.....kapt

Kaptain
09-03-2007, 11:05 AM
NCAA FB 09/08/2007
Team Open Line Movements Current Money Scores Notes
309 west virginia -25 -05 -25.5 +01 / -25.5 +07 / -25.5 +10 -24 -08
11:00 AM EDT
310 marshall
ESPN2
311 nevada +310
12:00 PM EDT
312 northwestern -7 -11 -7 -11 / -7.5 -09 / -8 -05 -8.5 -05 -360
313 nebraska -6.5 -05 -6.5 -11 / -6.5 -05 / -6.5 -11 -7 -05 -270
12:00 PM EDT
314 wake forest +238
ESPN; GAME CIRCLED:; NEB (WR) Purify Probable; WF (QB) Skinner Questionable
315 miami florida +410
12:00 PM EDT
316 oklahoma -10.5 +01 -10.5 +01 -10 -09 -480
ABC; MIA FL (Back-up QB) Wright Probable
317 miami ohio +310
12:00 PM EDT
318 minnesota -10 +01 -10 +01 / -9.5 -05 -8.5 -05 -360
319 buffalo u +151
1:00 PM EDT
320 temple -3.5 -05 -3 -15 / -3 -11 / -3 -17 -3.5 -09 -166
***TIME CHANGE***
321 akron
12:00 PM EDT
322 ohio state -31 -05 -31 +01 / -30 -05 / -29 -05 -28.5 -05
323 duke +740
12:00 PM EDT
324 virginia -17 -05 -17 +01 / -16 -05 / -16 -11 -16.5 -05 -1000
ABC/GP
325 alabama -5.5 -05 -4 +01 / -4 +07 / -3.5 +01 -3.5 +03 -156
12:30 PM EDT
326 vanderbilt +141
ABC/GP
327 toledo +139
7:00 PM EDT
328 central michigan -3.5 -05 -3.5 -05 -3.5 +01 -154
***TIME CHANGE***
329 bowling green +940
12:00 PM EDT
330 michigan state -16 -05 -17.5 -05 / -17.5 +01 / -17.5 -05 -17.5 -02 -1300
***TIME CHANGE***
331 rice +214
7:00 PM EDT
332 baylor -6 -05 -6 -05 -240
***TIME CHANGE***
333 utah state
2:00 PM EDT
334 wyoming -25 -05 -25 -05 / -25 +01 -24 -05
335 san jose state +740
7:00 PM EDT
336 kansas state -16 -05 -16 -05 -16.5 -05 -1000
***TIME CHANGE***
337 california -16.5 -05 -14.5 -11 / -14.5 -05 / -14.5 +01 -14 -08 -600
2:00 PM EDT
338 colorado state +470
CSTV
339 missouri -5.5 -05 -6 +01 / -6 +07 / -6 +01 -6 -05 -240
6:00 PM EDT
340 mississippi +214
***TIME CHANGE***
341 north carolina state +440
2:30 PM EDT
342 boston college -13.5 -05 -13.5 +01 / -13.5 +07 / -13 -05 -13 -11 -520
ESPN2; NC ST (RB) Baker OUT; BC (RB) Whitworth Questionable
343 ball state -5.5 -05 -5.5 -05 -220
12:00 PM EDT
344 eastern michigan +194
***TIME CHANGE***
345 oregon +248
3:30 PM EDT
346 michigan -7 -05 -6 -23 / -7 -05 / -7 -09 -7 -12 -280
ABC/GP
347 boise state -4 -05 -4 +01 / -3.5 -05 / -3.5 +00 -3 -09 -150
3:30 PM EDT
348 washington u +135
ABC/GP
349 fresno state +940
3:30 PM EDT
350 texas am -17 -05 -17 -05 / -17 +01 / -17 -05 -17 -11 -1300
FSN
351 uab
5:00 PM EDT
352 florida state
ESPNU; GAME OFF BOARD:; Florida St plays Monday
353 south carolina +200
5:45 PM EDT
354 georgia -5.5 -05 -5.5 -05 / -5.5 -09 -5.5 -03 -226
ESPN2; S CAR (QB) Mitchell Probable; Geo- (RB) Lumpkin Out
355 notre dame +760
6:00 PM EDT
356 penn state -14 -05 -16 -14 / -16 -17 / -16 -20 -18 -05 -1020
ESPN
357 air force +310
6:00 PM EDT
358 utah -7.5 -05 -7.5 -05 / -7.5 -11 -8 -05 -360
GAME CIRCLED:; UT (QB) Johnson OUT, (RB) Asiata OUT; UT (Back-up QB) Grady Expected to start
359 north carolina +144
6:00 PM EDT
360 east carolina -4.5 -05 -4.5 +07 / -3.5 +01 / -3.5 -05 -3.5 +01 -159
CSTV; E CAR (QB) Kass Probable
361 byu +270
6:30 PM EDT
362 ucla -8.5 -05 -8.5 +01 / -8.5 -03 / -8.5 +03 -7.5 -05 -310
FSN/GP; UCLA (Back-up QB) Cowan OUT
363 so mississippi +420
7:00 PM EDT
364 tennessee u -12 +01 -12 +01 -10.5 -05 -500
ABC/GP; TENN (RB) Coker Probable
365 tcu +360
7:00 PM EDT
366 texas -9 -05 -10 -05 / -10 +01 / -10 +07 -9.5 -05 -420
FSN; TCU (RB) Brown Questionable; TEX (WR) Pittman OUT
367 mississippi state -6.5 -11 -6.5 -11 / -6.5 -05 / -6.5 +01 -6 -05 -240
7:00 PM EDT
368 tulane +214
369 kent +420
6:00 PM EDT
370 kentucky -13 -07 -13 -07 -13 -01 -500
***TIME CHANGE***; ABC/GP
371 utep
7:00 PM EDT
372 texas tech
GAME OFF BOARD:; Texas Tech plays Monday; UTEP (RB) Thomas Probable
373 san diego state +520
7:00 PM EDT
374 washington state -14 -05 -14 -05 / -14 +01 -13.5 -05 -650
@ Seattle, WA
375 hawaii -28 -05 -27 -08 / -24.5 -05 / -24.5 -11 -27.5 -05
7:00 PM EDT
376 louisiana tech
ABC/GP
377 syracuse
8:00 PM EDT
378 iowa -23 -05 -23 -05 / -23 +01 / -23 +07 -21.5 -05
IOWA (WR's) Bowman, Douglas Both Questionable
379 indiana +1 +07 / -1.5 -05 / -1.5 +01 -1 -05
8:00 PM EDT
380 western michigan -1 -05
ESPNU
381 south florida +260
9:00 PM EDT
382 auburn -7 -05 -7 -05 -300
ESPN2
383 virginia tech +380
9:15 PM EDT
384 lsu -13 -05 -13 +04 / -13 -02 / -13 +04 -12 -05 -440
ESPN
385 new mexico state +260
9:30 PM EDT
386 new mexico -8.5 -05 -8 +01 / -7.5 -05 / -7.5 +01 -7 -05 -300
387 wisconsin -26.5 -05 -26 +01 / -24.5 -02 / -24.5 -08 -24.5 -05
10:00 PM EDT
388 unlv
Versus
389 colorado +470
10:15 PM EDT
390 arizona state -16 -05 -14.5 +07 / -14.5 +01 / -14.5 +04 -14 -05 -600
FSN
391 ul - monroe
1:00 PM EDT
392 clemson
ADDED GAMES; ***TIME CHANGE***; GAME OFF BOARD:; Clemson plays Monday
393 troy
6:00 PM EDT
394 florida -28 -05 -28 -05 / -28 +01 / -27 -05 -26 -05
TROY ST (QB) Haugabook Probable
395 florida atlantic
7:00 PM EDT
396 oklahoma state -23 -05 -21.5 +01 / -21.5 -05 / -21.5 -11 -22 -05
397 ohio -1.5 -05 -1.5 -05
7:00 PM EDT
398 ul - lafayette
399 maryland -24.5 -05 -24.5 -05 / -24.5 +01 -23.5 -05
7:00 PM EDT
400 florida intl
401 memphis -3.5 -05 -3.5 -05 / -3.5 -11 / -4.5 -05 -4 -175
7:00 PM EDT
402 arkansas state +160
MEM (RB) Doss Questionable
403 north texas
8:00 PM EDT
404 smu