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jordanrules23
07-14-2007, 02:37 AM
this issue is getting to be a joke, they've ruined pro sports........Please tell me his kidding ////....Joe Torre a racist????? what will they think of next......what a shame, if your a white person and you have any authority in pro sports or the corp. world, your doomed.....Its really sad if you think about it...

musclemann
07-14-2007, 03:17 AM
this issue is getting to be a joke, they've ruined pro sports........Please tell me his kidding ////....Joe Torre a racist????? what will they think of next......what a shame, if your a white person and you have any authority in pro sports or the corp. world, your doomed.....Its really sad if you think about it...


I totally agree with you jordan. These fu****** N***** all suck! Theyve ruined the world!!!!!! Nice english by the way. Are you sure that isn't ebonics??????? (YOUR NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN ARE YOU JORDAN?)

jordanrules23
07-14-2007, 03:57 AM
Gary Sheffield has strong words about New York Yankees manager Joe Torre, former Yankees teammate Derek Jeter, San Francisco slugger Barry Bonds and steroids in an interview with HBO's "Real Sports" that will air Tuesday.


Sheffield says Torre treats black players differently from white players and says Jeter, who is from a mixed-race marriage, "ain't all the way black," during the interview with Andrea Kremer, as reported by Newsday.

As for Bonds, Sheffield says "if I took what Barry Bonds took, why don't I look like him?" He also says that he never took steroids because "the bottom line is steroids is something you stick in your butt -- period."

He added that he would be willing to talk to baseball's steroids investigator, former Senator George Mitchell. "I don't feel like it's all that much of a threat to me," he said.

A copy of the interview was made available to Newsday, the newspaper reported.

Sheffield, who was traded to the Detroit Tigers during the offseason, claimed that black and white players in the Yankees clubhouse were treated differently, specifically how players Tony Womack and Kenny Lofton were handled by Torre. In the interview with HBO, Sheffield says the black players on the Yankees' roster would be "called out" in the clubhouse by Torre, while the white players would be called into Torre's office to discuss matters.




Sheffield
He had a message to get across to the whole team, so he used me to get the message across.
Gary Sheffield, on Joe Torre
"They weren't treated like everybody else. I got called out in a couple of meetings that I thought were unfair," Sheffield told Kremer.

Sheffield later added: "He had a message to get across to the whole team, so he used me to get the message across." Sheffield said Torre didn't use the same method with white players.

"No ... I'd see a lot of white players get called in the office and treated like a man. That's the difference."

Sheffield said he doesn't consider Torre a racist. "No. I think it's the way they do things around there," he said. "Since I was there I just saw that they run their ship different."

At that point, Kremer says to Sheffield that the Yankees most high-profile player is black. "Who?" Sheffield says.

Told Jeter, Sheffield says: "Derek Jeter is black and white."

Later, he said there was no real significance to Jeter's bi-racial heritage, but added: "Derek Jeter used to come to me and try to tell you what Joe Torre is all about, he's a good man, he's this, he's that, but like I tell Derek Jeter, that's you. It's one thing that they treat you a certain way; you don't feel what other people feel."

Torre, asked about Sheffield's comments prior to Friday night's game in Tampa Bay, said: "I don't even want to answer those kinds of questions. I'm more comfortable not answering."

In the visiting clubhouse at Safeco Field on Friday, Sheffield stood behind what he said -- that Torre is not a racist -- but also tried to clarify some statements. In the piece, when it was mentioned that the Yankees' most prominent player -- Derek Jeter -- is black, Sheffield quickly clarified that Jeter is "black and white."

When asked the significance of that, Sheffield said, "It's really no significance. It's just you ain't all the way black."

On Friday, Sheffield said he and the Yankees shortstop were best friends on the team, and that Sheffield's son is also of mixed race.


"They're trying to make it a problem with him, when my son is the same. I'd say the same thing about my son," Sheffield said. "No one knows he's black until they look at the back of his jersey and see 'Sheffield.' "


Jeter declined comment.

As for Bonds, a former workout partner and friend of Sheffield's, the Tigers' outfielder says Bonds scoffed at him when he was using vitamins. Sheffield says he then got substances from BALCO, claiming not to know they were steroids.

Sheffield allegedly told a grand jury that he used steroid cream on his legs and "clear" under his tongue, but didn't know they were steroids.

He said his relationship with Bonds deteriorated because of a lack of trust.

"I trusted this man, he allowed me to stay in his house," Sheffield says. "I started seeing the control factor. I started seeing, wait a minute, you aren't going to tell me what to do."

On Friday, Sheffield said he doesn't speak with Bonds.

"We don't have no communication," Sheffield said. "I love and respect Barry to this day. I had a problem with him at that time, but I moved on and forgave."

Sheffield reportedly began the interview by saying: "I tell myself every offseason I'm not going to say anything crazy. I'm just going to have a peaceful season ... Can't do it. I'm cut from a different cloth."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

jcindaville
07-14-2007, 08:59 AM
Sheffield is an idiot

TwoTonTony
07-14-2007, 10:02 AM
i do not know if Torre is a racist but i think this probably has to do with Sheffield being outspoken more than anything. In any business it is always problematic that a employee is outspoken in his problems in the company yet wants to be dealt in a private manner himself. Sheffield has been famous for this in many locations....he wants it both ways......Each and every statement he comes out with diminishes his credibility. Think of how many teams washed their hands of him....It has not been because of lack of talent.

He is a confused baby....Says he unknowingly did steroids then does a 360 turn and says since they are not injected into your butt then they are not steroids.....he is out of his mind....but that guy can hit

BUD GREGG
07-14-2007, 10:43 AM
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musclemann
07-14-2007, 11:47 AM
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Special Cameos By Gary Sheffied, Rodney King And Others

Ebracing Diversity? seems like you jordan rules might have went to the same school. Alone with david duke and this guy

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You and jordan rules 2 biggest role models.

husker
07-14-2007, 12:50 PM
Coming Soon To A High School Near You- Freshmen Required Core Course For Graduation- Al Sharpton And Jesse Jackson's Course/video- Understanding Your Racism, Ebracing Diversity, And Blaming Others For Your Lack Of Equality......................

Special Cameos By Gary Sheffied, Rodney King And Others


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musclemann
07-14-2007, 06:48 PM
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They say great minds think alike husker.

Husker, Budd Gregg, and Jordan Rules.

TwoTonTony
07-14-2007, 08:03 PM
i really think this is more a testament on Sheffields speaking whatever comes to his mind first.....I think if anything this undermines his credibility......I think the lack of response by the Yankees and other players of color speaks volumes......

In the end this just erodes Sheffields credibility IMHO.....

a man who is lived a charmed life and yet can not let go of the victim mentality.....

Let's not lump all people into one category because this loose cannon happens to be black

JOMO1
07-14-2007, 09:24 PM
BOUTTIME!! WE SPEAK UP!! THANKS JORDON well done. ITS just soooo rediculous

kbsooner21
07-14-2007, 09:25 PM
Sheffield is an idiot
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shoeman530
07-14-2007, 10:47 PM
i really think this is more a testament on Sheffields speaking whatever comes to his mind first.....I think if anything this undermines his credibility......I think the lack of response by the Yankees and other players of color speaks volumes......

In the end this just erodes Sheffields credibility IMHO.....

a man who is lived a charmed life and yet can not let go of the victim mentality.....

Let's not lump all people into one category because this loose cannon happens to be black


Nicely said TTT...

musclemann
07-14-2007, 10:53 PM
BOUTTIME!! WE SPEAK UP!! THANKS JORDON well done. ITS just soooo rediculous


Rediculous? Another Rhodes scholar. Like I said great minds think alike.