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wayne1218
04-12-2007, 04:58 PM
Breaking News!

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 04:58 PM
He is officially ... UNEMPLOYED!

weazel079
04-12-2007, 05:01 PM
I really think this got blown out of proportion. The media saw blood and attacked.

ChuckLazar
04-12-2007, 05:03 PM
:gives:

Dead Presidents
04-12-2007, 05:03 PM
fughin worse thingss in this world- fukin jesse jackoff- biggest racist in the world:blah: :angry3:

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 05:04 PM
Well i guess you don't chuck!

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 05:07 PM
Oprah is a CBS show. The team was on Oprah today. She carries alot more weight than Imus and i wonder if she played a part in it.

TheRook
04-12-2007, 05:18 PM
This was a no brainer as SOON as MSNBC decided to take the show off the air. CBS was put in a catch 22 right then and there.

IMO....I think it had to be done. The precident has been set already with Steve Lyons, Jimmy the Greek etc....

Imus knows better....he just got caught saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

And now it cost him his career, cause I don't see anyone picking that show up.

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 05:19 PM
This was a no brainer as SOON as MSNBC decided to take the show off the air. CBS was put in a catch 22 right then and there.

IMO....I think it had to be done. The precident has been set already with Steve Lyons, Jimmy the Greek etc....

Imus knows better....he just got caught saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

And now it cost him his career, cause I don't see anyone picking that show up.

Satellite radio might give him a try!

Dead Presidents
04-12-2007, 05:19 PM
:butt: IS A MILLIONAIRE MANY TIMES OVER HE DOES NOT HAVE TO WORK:dontknow:

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 05:20 PM
:butt: IS A MILLIONAIRE MANY TIMES OVER HE DOES NOT HAVE TO WORK:dontknow:

I agree .... but i bet he doesn't want to go out this way.

Welcome to Satellite Radio!

Dead Presidents
04-12-2007, 05:21 PM
that- he did not want this to be his legacey:scream:

TheRook
04-12-2007, 05:22 PM
Satellite radio might give him a try!


As i was typing my first reply I was thinking about satellite......


Howard Stern may be a shock jock...but I don't think. he's a racist.

Pervert is one thing


Race is just too tricky.

If he does go to satellite...I will be very surprised. And who is going to buy advertising and not face the backlash?

Dead Presidents
04-12-2007, 05:24 PM
he retires to his ranch in New Mexico- and helps the kids with cancer-he's 66 years old and set for life:dontknow:

Dead Presidents
04-12-2007, 05:26 PM
That it was Sid Rosenberg who started the whole conversation- he's the one who made the comments about the Williams sisters

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 05:27 PM
As i was typing my first reply I was thinking about satellite......


Howard Stern may be a shock jock...but I don't think. he's a racist.

Pervert is one thing


Race is just too tricky.

If he does go to satellite...I will be very surprised. And who is going to buy advertising and not face the backlash?

Maybe but i listen to Howard sometimes on Sirius and i can't believe they let him say some of the shit he does ... Even on satellite!

Imus has a big backing still, i'm willing to bet that hasn't changed and Sirius or XM would fit him perfectly.

TheRook
04-12-2007, 05:32 PM
Maybe but i listen to Howard sometimes on Sirius and i can't believe they let him say some of the shit he does ... Even on satellite!

Imus has a big backing still, i'm willing to bet that hasn't changed and Sirius or XM would fit him perfectly.


Oh I know about his backing....I mean he raised over a million dollars just today for his radio-thon I read....but if the way that Sirius and XM make their big bucks is thru advertising.....I would like to know who is going to stand behind Imus and not face any backlash from the African American community.

I just don't see this going away any time soon. But you just never know.


I still go back to my origional point though about comparing Stern to Imus...

Stern is a perv.....he offends everyone...lol

Imus singled out african american women...with a racial slur.

I just don't know.

Lsufan
04-12-2007, 05:33 PM
Maybe but i listen to Howard sometimes on Sirius and i can't believe they let him say some of the shit he does ... Even on satellite!

Imus has a big backing still, i'm willing to bet that hasn't changed and Sirius or XM would fit him perfectly.
You can't believe what Howard says??? You must not watch South Park. They have been saying some crazy shit on TV since 1997.

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 05:53 PM
Oh I know about his backing....I mean he raised over a million dollars just today for his radio-thon I read....but if the way that Sirius and XM make their big bucks is thru advertising.....I would like to know who is going to stand behind Imus and not face any backlash from the African American community.

I just don't see this going away any time soon. But you just never know.


I still go back to my origional point though about comparing Stern to Imus...

Stern is a perv.....he offends everyone...lol

Imus singled out african american women...with a racial slur.

I just don't know.

I don't think they rely on the advertising like the others do though John. Just like when they brought Howard on, it's about getting people to buy the radio and the service. A shitload of people bought the radios and service when Stern came here. All that money pays his contract and Sirius has you hooked for $13 a month (Like i pay). They are way more into recruiting subscribers/money more than they are advertisers. You may not get the "Big Name" advertisers but plenty of other business' will take a chance knowing his following i bet. :)

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 05:56 PM
You can't believe what Howard says??? You must not watch South Park. They have been saying some crazy shit on TV since 1997.

That's true too. I forgot South Park. I guess what i meant to say is Howard was so much cleaner on Free radio after getting hammered with fines and now it is weird to hear him again as his old self but much worse. Man ... There have been times when i flip by and listen for a minute and i'm like ... WOW!!! :D:

I ain't gonna lie though, i usually laugh cause the people he fucks with, all want to be there!

bwade210
04-12-2007, 05:59 PM
Ehh....it's about par for this once fair and justified country. You can walk down any street in the any city in the United States of Amercia and hear a black teen say n- this and n- that. 50 Cent makes million saying "hoes this" and "wanksta that" (which btw means white gangsta), "I capped that fool", "we blow endo"! Yet we hear nothing, and a white male says what Imus says and he loses his job. When are we going to hear jesse jackson apologize for saying the Duke lacrosse athletes were guilty and commited racist acts? Where is this racist now? It's a travesty and our country is at the mercy of double standards!

jordanrules23
04-12-2007, 06:03 PM
Ehh....it's about par for this once fair and justified country. You can walk down any street in the any city in the United States of Amercia and hear a black teen say n- this and n- that. 50 Cent makes million saying "hoes this" and "wanksta that" (which btw means white gangsta), "I capped that fool", "we blow endo"! Yet we hear nothing, and a white male says what Imus says and he loses his job. When are we going to hear jesse jackson apologize for saying the Duke lacrosse athletes were guilty and commited racist acts? Where is this racist now? It's a travesty and our country is at the mercy of double standards!
WE CAN BLAME ALL THE LIBERALS FOR THIS FIASCO......

Lsufan
04-12-2007, 06:07 PM
That's true too. I forgot South Park. I guess what i meant to say is Howard was so much cleaner on Free radio after getting hammered with fines and now it is weird to hear him again as his old self but much worse. Man ... There have been times when i flip by and listen for a minute and i'm like ... WOW!!! :D:

I ain't gonna lie though, i usually laugh cause the people he fucks with, all want to be there!
Wayne, check out the first few minutes of this show ....:red: :red:


Click Here (http://video.glath.com/view/southpark.With_Apologies_to_Jesse_Jackson)

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 06:23 PM
Holy shit Jimmy. That is UNREAL!

I can't help it, i was lmao.

"Token" was his name? OMG ... and Imus gets fired while these guys fire away. Just doesn't seem right does it?

BettorsChat
04-12-2007, 06:26 PM
I say Fuck Don Imus :rofl2:

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 06:28 PM
I say Fuck Don Imus :rofl2:

Let me guess, he's a Republican? :red: :red:

Lsufan
04-12-2007, 06:38 PM
Holy shit Jimmy. That is UNREAL!

I can't help it, i was lmao.

"Token" was his name? OMG ... and Imus gets fired while these guys fire away. Just doesn't seem right does it?
Dude, I couldn't believe it myself. But I couldn't help myself, I was LMFAO. And that just came out a few weeks ago too.

BTW, check out this episode also ... It is out of the box!!!!

PS. Listen to the teacher's name too :red:


Click Here (http://video.glath.com/view/southpark.Here_Comes_the_Neighborhood)

mgm1977
04-12-2007, 06:40 PM
all this proved was that blacks have more power then whites and it isn't a racists comment but he would of never got fired if al sharpton didn't stick his nose in it

ChuckLazar
04-12-2007, 06:45 PM
I say Fuck Don Imus :rofl2:

The guy apologized publicly which should be enough. To anyone who doesn't accept the apology, I think he has the right to tell them to go f off. I definitely support free speech and wish I had a nickel for every time some Jew-run media outlet portrayed straight white males in a less than advantageous light vs. their black, homosexual, jewish and/or female counterparts. I'd even let them subtract a nickel for every time it went the other way.

If you currently are a heterosexual white male in the US, you have limited free speech pertaining to issues discussing race, gender, orientation issues.
You may only be on receiving end of racial insults and shall not give any without being ran out of town.
they want none other than to erode the white race into oblivion to avoid a repeat of Hitler and to further their own agenda of world dominance. Whites are the biggest threat to them at the moment.

By blatantly and cleverly belittling the white male, and portraying him as an immature, irresponsible overgrown kid, they make him averse to reproduce, especially with his own kind. It also encourages white females to seek more non-white males as partners.

The future demographic implications are as obvious as they are disastrous (for whites).

In movies, television, and especially television advertising, its a blatant and common theme. In fact, its easier to find the instances it doesnt happen vs the instances it does.

Movies such as black snake moan...a white man thats a complete drunk, clown, and otherwise loser, leaves his white girlfriend. The white woman who is strung out, abused, lost, suddenly finds an older black man and saves her from further ruining herself.

Of course during the movie previews, shes wearing a t-shirt with a rebel flag. Anytime, and I do mean anytime the rebel flag is displayed via hollywood or television, its in an evil or belittling manner.

Another blatant example is everything about mtv, so no real need to explain that any further.

One example (there are too many to list all) is the sitcom my name is earl.

The show is about some white man whos daughter decided to leave her husband, Earl, who is white. She then starts dating Crab Man, a black guy, who also happens to be somehow acquainted with her former boyfriend. Crab Man and her dad become acquainted. Crab Man is not the typical 9-5 go to work type black, he is more of a amos and andy look a like, who's a bum and a pot-head.. So, enough people watch this show, its now cool to not only date a black, but a complete bozo.

Basically, whats happened with all this political correctness is that the black men have been alligned with the white women via their combined effort vs white men. Whether or not he be portrayed a white businessman wearing a suit, a blue jeans wearing, racist, sexist, rebel flag toting, nascar loving, "redneck", a stupid hillbilly, he is nevertheless the enemy and cause of all the worlds problems.

Whats happened from this is that alot of black men are turning their backs on black women (who are also on outside looking in). Some black men view it as the ultimate fuck you to white men since white women were for so long off limits. Also, some blacks are full aware that if more white women are kept away from whitey and eventually whitey will be gone. Public enemy said this in their own lyrics many moons ago.

Too many white women go along with this since they have been brainwashed that their fathers and uncles are evil, their brothers are weak, stupid punks, or tough rednecks, and they should be with the ultra cool and best decision making black man to make all past wrongs whole.

Another important point Id like to mention is white people that have been completely convinced (brainwashed) to believe anything and everything about the multicultarism/pc lies will defend it, regardless how obvious their own destruction is because of it.

Who's the hoe here? The T.V. station that had the idiot on the air in the first place. And the advertisers didn't know he was an idiot before this statement?

What a bunch of weak cowards all of them are for caving into the pressure from a bunch of free speech haters hiding behind a useless remark from a complete idiot.
And there's nothing wrong with being proud of who you are and what color your skin is. Wanting to keep it that way just might be the right thing to do anyway because after all didn't this GOD fantasy guy make us different for a reason? Maybe he wants us to keep it that way.

God himself might not want us to mix.

I believe Out of Wedlock Births is the number one Social Issue in this Country..White and Black.

I used Black because that's what we were talking about and also because there are MORE of these types of Births with Blacks. I believe the number is in the high 60%.

In raising a daughter, it is both parents' responsibility to make sure their daughter understands her responsibilities when she grows up. The father must make her understand what men are like, and if she says something like "Daddy, why are you different then?", you have to remind her it's because of her mother's success in bagging you and holding on to you. You would be just like those other guys if her mother wasn't as wonderful as she was. Your daughter's job is to make herself at least as wonderful.

Men are put on this earth by God to go after as much ***** as we can get. It's the woman's job to screen the candidates and make sure the relationship lasts. Sure, women like to shirk their responsibilities and pass them over to us, but we are suckers to accept that. We stay with a woman because she is worthy of staying with, not because we are so benevolent. If a man stays with a woman just out of obligation, I say he is doing everyone a disservice, especially the kids.

Your entitled to your views too. Fact of the matter , just because I don't want to be a grandfather to a Balck Baby in the future does not maker me a racist. If you think that so be it, who cares. To many young white women are getting knocked up by this agenda and ruining their life. I blame this On the white woman for being to naive to look into the future and see how she is ruining her life. Stand by what I say and issue the same warning to not want this for all our sisters & daughters. To acept this is sticking your foolish head in the sand. If yoiu want to invite this intoyour future family be my guest

any white man that wishes that his grandkids be white is automatically labeled a racist....total bullshit.

These brainwashed pc people would most likely think nothing of a person of another race making similar comments.

Also, agree that if that incorrect label must be assigned for having such beliefs, who cares. There are more important things to be concerned about than what people outside your own family and circle of friends believe.

Myself, while I dont have daughters, I dont believe forbidding people from doing certain things is the answer. White parents (or any parents) that completely forbid kids from doing anything, soon find when their backs are turned, its the first thing their kids look to see whats being kept from them. I think DP has the right idea that while it should be discouraged, it should not be an absolute mandate for then countervailing forces such as curiousity and rebellion overcome any mandate.

People that work together, go to school together, live together, quite often fall in love and Im of the belief that I have no right forcing people to make those choices. If I did have daughters, I would hope she would make the best decision for her and her family when choosing a mate.

I certainly would discourage and would never fully accept her being with a black man. However, if I knew their hearts were devoted, I can honestly say, while my soul would grieve, I would eventually rest about it.

My main point about this issue is that race mixing has been and continues being promoted via various media and being anti pc is not desirable for any white man attempting to be upwardly mobile via the working world.

There are too many white women with black men who treat them like fucking dogs, leave them with one or two half black kids, and bail and leave their family with this type of embarassment.

Im sure these black men damn well know, that once he has bagged the white woman, she is tarnished in her own community. If they manage to have a child together, her chances of ever dating a white man (even the scum bags) is zero. Thus, the cycle of disaster tumbles down upon her life.

While I dont totally fault black men for getting all the sex they can get, usually from what ive seen he is older than the woman and young girls (black or white) that dont have proper home environment and/guidance often dont make good decisions.

Some are just out for a piece of ass and it doesnt matter what the woman race is. However, there are some black men that are deliberately knocking up as many white women as they can get their hands on. Ive heard this with my own ears and anyone that has their eyes opened would know this.

This is truth and thus remains truth regardless whatever label it is assigned via the pc crowd.

Im not surprised imus has been fired.

Also, if a black person would be fired for making similar comments I would not at all disagree with imus or any black being fired.

Problem is that if a black person hosting a radio show said similar things about a group of white people, they would be less likely to be fired or even reprimanded.

These were some pretty interesting quotes from a few people I have read

I can agree with plenty of them but :gives:

That's one less negative asshole making $$$$ out there

vols fan
04-12-2007, 06:50 PM
Ehh....it's about par for this once fair and justified country. You can walk down any street in the any city in the United States of Amercia and hear a black teen say n- this and n- that. 50 Cent makes million saying "hoes this" and "wanksta that" (which btw means white gangsta), "I capped that fool", "we blow endo"! Yet we hear nothing, and a white male says what Imus says and he loses his job. When are we going to hear jesse jackson apologize for saying the Duke lacrosse athletes were guilty and commited racist acts? Where is this racist now? It's a travesty and our country is at the mercy of double standards!
10-4 that.Ole Jesse and Al must not realize that when they only represent black people and ony want black people to succeed that they are as racist as anybody.If Steve Harvey(King of Comedy) makes the same comment on his radio show no one blinks an eye.DBL standard.:angry3: :angry3:

TheRook
04-12-2007, 07:05 PM
I don't think they rely on the advertising like the others do though John. Just like when they brought Howard on, it's about getting people to buy the radio and the service. A shitload of people bought the radios and service when Stern came here. All that money pays his contract and Sirius has you hooked for $13 a month (Like i pay). They are way more into recruiting subscribers/money more than they are advertisers. You may not get the "Big Name" advertisers but plenty of other business' will take a chance knowing his following i bet. :)
That's a good point. I wasnt sure how they got they're money.

You might very well be right.

And i"m sure Imus would draw more and more revenue for XM or Sirius...and since they are merging....might be a great thing for XM to take hold of.

TheRook
04-12-2007, 07:10 PM
10-4 that.Ole Jesse and Al must not realize that when they only represent black people and ony want black people to succeed that they are as racist as anybody.If Steve Harvey(King of Comedy) makes the same comment on his radio show no one blinks an eye.DBL standard.:angry3: :angry3:


I respectfully disagree and here's why....

Steve Harvey didn't make that statement....that's an assumption on your part.

We keep saying there is a double standard...but where is the proof of that?

Imus was nortorious for pushing the envelope just like Stern did, but in different ways have GOT to know that saying what he said EVEN IN JEST would result in some sort of uproar.

Race relations in this country seems like we take one step forward and two steps back.

I am 100% in favor of free speech, but ignorant speech like Imus subjected his audience to pushed the envelope just a bit too far this time.

wayne could very well be right...he'll go to satellite make even more money and maybe right the error of his way.

Do I think he's a bad person? No, hell no. He just is a person of great influence in the US and make a dumb ass statement that could NOT have gone un noticed.

don't blame anyone but Imus. He chose to say what he said, and he's reaping what he sowed.

DIRK
04-12-2007, 07:14 PM
in this country you better watch what you say about jews and blacks. If you say the wrong thing your reputation is tarnished. We should be worrying about the big problem in this country which is an incompetent president who can't finish a war or get out. Even though we all know its to set up him and his friends businesses out there.

DIRK
04-12-2007, 07:16 PM
That it was Sid Rosenberg who started the whole conversation- he's the one who made the comments about the Williams sisters

Sid Rosenburg a druggie who shouldn't even be on the radio but we all know why he is given chance after chance.

I don't even think Jackson and Sharpton thought he would get fired.

Lsufan
04-12-2007, 07:57 PM
This reminds me of when Tiger won his first green jacket. Fuzzy Zoeller was interview and asked what he thought of Tiger's play. Fuzzy congratulated Tiger, and told the media to pat Tiger on the back when he arrives, and to tell him not to serve fried chicken and collard greens for next year's players dinner.

K-mart, one of Fuzzy's main sponsors, dropped him fast. But Fuzzy made it through it. He continued playing golf, as Imus will continue working.

Fuzzy was known as the "class clown" on the PGA Tour. I LMAO when I saw the interview, cause I knew Fuzzy was just joking.

Click Here For The Interview Video (http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=12464)

Kaptain
04-12-2007, 07:57 PM
I respectfully disagree and here's why....

Steve Harvey didn't make that statement....that's an assumption on your part.

We keep saying there is a double standard...but where is the proof of that?

Imus was nortorious for pushing the envelope just like Stern did, but in different ways have GOT to know that saying what he said EVEN IN JEST would result in some sort of uproar.

Race relations in this country seems like we take one step forward and two steps back.

I am 100% in favor of free speech, but ignorant speech like Imus subjected his audience to pushed the envelope just a bit too far this time.

wayne could very well be right...he'll go to satellite make even more money and maybe right the error of his way.

Do I think he's a bad person? No, hell no. He just is a person of great influence in the US and make a dumb ass statement that could NOT have gone un noticed.

don't blame anyone but Imus. He chose to say what he said, and he's reaping what he sowed.

Well worded my man----has some rings of truth to it.....:clapping: kapt

gbell
04-12-2007, 08:46 PM
I respectfully disagree and here's why....

Steve Harvey didn't make that statement....that's an assumption on your part.

We keep saying there is a double standard...but where is the proof of that?

Imus was nortorious for pushing the envelope just like Stern did, but in different ways have GOT to know that saying what he said EVEN IN JEST would result in some sort of uproar.

Race relations in this country seems like we take one step forward and two steps back.

I am 100% in favor of free speech, but ignorant speech like Imus subjected his audience to pushed the envelope just a bit too far this time.

wayne could very well be right...he'll go to satellite make even more money and maybe right the error of his way.

Do I think he's a bad person? No, hell no. He just is a person of great influence in the US and make a dumb ass statement that could NOT have gone un noticed.

don't blame anyone but Imus. He chose to say what he said, and he's reaping what he sowed.

I don't think he said Steve Harvey made the comment, but a "what it". And you want proof of a double standard? You can't be that naive. Oh dear Lord!
Jimmy the Greek gets fired for his comments. Dusty Baker?
Rush Limbaugh? Fired. Michael Irvin? (not fired b/c of his racist statements)
Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton..Hymietown, white interlopers.
Mayor Nagin..chocolate city...

Any of these striking a similiar cord?
And there's no double standard?
And I disagree with your assumption that Imus is a man of great influence. Proof?

gbell
04-12-2007, 08:50 PM
Well worded my man----has some rings of truth to it.....:clapping: kapt
I hope that a person of your age and wisdom is not agreeing that there isn't a double standard? Certainly someone who posted that they were there from the early days of segregation to modern day has seen this double standard?

TheRook
04-12-2007, 09:05 PM
I don't think he said Steve Harvey made the comment, but a "what it". And you want proof of a double standard? You can't be that naive. Oh dear Lord!
Jimmy the Greek gets fired for his comments. Dusty Baker?
Rush Limbaugh? Fired. Michael Irvin? (not fired b/c of his racist statements)
Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton..Hymietown, white interlopers.
Mayor Nagin..chocolate city...

Any of these striking a similiar cord?
And there's no double standard?
And I disagree with your assumption that Imus is a man of great influence. Proof?


Steve harvey made a huh?

Michael Irvin? You don't think that everything added up together made it that much easier to let him go? Come on....lets not play the naive game here.

The only proof I have that Imus has influence would be his ratings day after day month after month, year after year. If he didn't influence his audience, he wouldn't have been on the air for that many years.

Do I think Imus said a bad thing? YES...without question.

Do I think he should have been fired? NO...I don't think so. I think deep down he regrets his choice of words.

Am I surprised he was fired? HELL NO....it's what had to be done to "make it right"

Does "making it right" end the debate? No, of course not.

There are zero winners here in this very slippery slope of race relations. Sharpton and Jackson took full advantage of the situation as they love to do and it cost a man his job.

Right or wrong....CBS had no choice, especially after MSNBC made theirs.

jordanrules23
04-12-2007, 09:07 PM
I don't think he said Steve Harvey made the comment, but a "what it". And you want proof of a double standard? You can't be that naive. Oh dear Lord!
Jimmy the Greek gets fired for his comments. Dusty Baker?
Rush Limbaugh? Fired. Michael Irvin? (not fired b/c of his racist statements)
Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton..Hymietown, white interlopers.
Mayor Nagin..chocolate city...

Any of these striking a similiar cord?
And there's no double standard?
And I disagree with your assumption that Imus is a man of great influence. Proof?
GBell your dealing with libs who dont know their ass from a hole in the ground.....

wayne1218
04-12-2007, 09:14 PM
GBell your dealing with libs who dont know their ass from a hole in the ground.....

Take a month off jordan. I've warned you 100 times to talk like an adult here. I could care less which side you are on but i. and many are sick of your constant depressing, negative and useless posts that continue to target single or plural members time and time again.

TheRook
04-12-2007, 09:20 PM
I don't think he said Steve Harvey made the comment, but a "what it". And you want proof of a double standard? You can't be that naive. Oh dear Lord!
Jimmy the Greek gets fired for his comments. Dusty Baker?
Rush Limbaugh? Fired. Michael Irvin? (not fired b/c of his racist statements)
Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton..Hymietown, white interlopers.
Mayor Nagin..chocolate city...

Any of these striking a similiar cord?
And there's no double standard?
And I disagree with your assumption that Imus is a man of great influence. Proof?


Let me ask one more thing...because you do bring up some good points.....


Was what Imus said wrong in your opinion?

If so.....what would you have done if you were CBS or NBC?

If you don't think so....why not?

gbell
04-12-2007, 09:44 PM
Let me ask one more thing...because you do bring up some good points.....


Was what Imus said wrong in your opinion?

If so.....what would you have done if you were CBS or NBC?

If you don't think so....why not?
First, the Steve Harvey statement I sent you was b/c you had responded to a "what if" with a "where's the proof Steve Harvey said" and the original poster never said Steve Harvey made a similiar comment as Imus. Substitute Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock. Do you think it's ok for them to say what they do?

I am not offended by what Imus said, but I do see where the Rutgers bball team could/would since it was directed towards them directly. Everyone else is hopping on the bandwagon.

Since he has been doing the same things for 30+ years, I find it odd to now have him removed. The only reason he was is b/c sponsors were leaving. Bottom line.

If I was CBS/MSNBC, I would have not made a decision until after the meeting with the bball team. I would have kept the suspension, and let listeners decide whether to continue to listen or to tune out. See if sponsors would still advertise (not likely) and maybe go from there.

I still wonder though, are you still not seeing the "double standard" that does exist, or do you need more examples?
Just b/c Irvin was fired WELL after his racist comment doesn't mean it was the reason. Who knows? No proof.

And how does firing him "make it right?" Do the words somehow come back? Do you think a nice fat check is on it's way to Rutgers anytime soon from CBS/MSNBC?

Lastly, I wouldn't confuse "ratings" with "influence". Our mothers are only one person, but that had "influence" correct? Viewership/listenership and influence aren't the same thing.

TheRook
04-12-2007, 09:55 PM
First, the Steve Harvey statement I sent you was b/c you had responded to a "what if" with a "where's the proof Steve Harvey said" and the original poster never said Steve Harvey made a similiar comment as Imus. Substitute Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock. Do you think it's ok for them to say what they do?

I am not offended by what Imus said, but I do see where the Rutgers bball team could/would since it was directed towards them directly. Everyone else is hopping on the bandwagon.

Since he has been doing the same things for 30+ years, I find it odd to now have him removed. The only reason he was is b/c sponsors were leaving. Bottom line.

If I was CBS/MSNBC, I would have not made a decision until after the meeting with the bball team. I would have kept the suspension, and let listeners decide whether to continue to listen or to tune out. See if sponsors would still advertise (not likely) and maybe go from there.

I still wonder though, are you still not seeing the "double standard" that does exist, or do you need more examples?
Just b/c Irvin was fired WELL after his racist comment doesn't mean it was the reason. Who knows? No proof.

And how does firing him "make it right?" Do the words somehow come back? Do you think a nice fat check is on it's way to Rutgers anytime soon from CBS/MSNBC?

Lastly, I wouldn't confuse "ratings" with "influence". Our mothers are only one person, but that had "influence" correct? Viewership/listenership and influence aren't the same thing.



Thanks Gbell....

at least now I know where your coming from on this.


I understand what you have called a "double standard". Your examples back up your statement.


This whole subject is very uncomfortable for me and I really don't want to get into it much more other then what I had said before.

You make some good points. But I also think that right or wrong, the decision that CBS made was the right one for THEM...and that's the bottom line in the business world...what is best for #1.

Whether or not you think so, Rutgers women's bball team were HUGE HUGE winners in this whole thing. They got some major face time and that's huge for recruiting, especially since they were in the championship game. This has totally deflected all attention away from any other team right now. And I'm sure they can use that to their advantage.

I think we'll agree to disagree on the influence factor with personalities like Imus...Stern....Jackass....WWE....for example...

Just take American Idol and Sanjaya.....he's not making it week to week on his talent. There is some Stern influence helping that boy out big time.

I think this will be my last reply on this cause again....it's a very uncomfortable topic to "take sides on".

Good points though Gbell.....

Hope mine are as respected as well.

gbell
04-12-2007, 11:15 PM
You make some good points. But I also think that right or wrong, the decision that CBS made was the right one for THEM...and that's the bottom line in the business world...what is best for #1.

Whether or not you think so, Rutgers women's bball team were HUGE HUGE winners in this whole thing. They got some major face time and that's huge for recruiting, especially since they were in the championship game. This has totally deflected all attention away from any other team right now. And I'm sure they can use that to their advantage.

I think we'll agree to disagree on the influence factor with personalities like Imus...Stern....Jackass....WWE....for example...

Just take American Idol and Sanjaya.....he's not making it week to week on his talent. There is some Stern influence helping that boy out big time.

I think this will be my last reply on this cause again....it's a very uncomfortable topic to "take sides on".

Good points though Gbell.....

Hope mine are as respected as well.

I only attempted to refute your comment about Imus having "influence". Audience and influenece, again, to me, are different. I think all of your references (stern,jackass,wwe) all lead to a coarsening of society. But there speech shouldn't be stifled either. A tightrope that must be walked unfortunately.

I said before your response that this was a mostly biz decision with sponsors pulling.
And I agree 100% that this was being used by Rutgers as a recruiting "feel sorry for us" tool. It feeds beautifully into the David vs Goliath recruitment.

Kaptain
04-13-2007, 07:05 AM
I hope that a person of your age and wisdom is not agreeing that there isn't a double standard? Certainly someone who posted that they were there from the early days of segregation to modern day has seen this double standard?

Note----I say some rings of truth to it.....And I think he made some good points, as you agreed with by saying so in post #45....

Do I think there is double standards here....you bet ya....and believe you me, theres plenty more where that one comes from (double standars that is)...........

What started out as a good thing, IMO, has gone overboard, and some people, not all, use the law to their advantage....

The world is full of some good, some bad, people...This kind of subject, along with Religion and Politics, is very difficult to discuss.....Feelings get hurt, and some times, words are mis interpreted..........

We still have work to do on the above mentioned subjects, before one can readily discuss em without conroversy, and you and I both know, that will never happen....

and yes, I've seen the early days, didn't like em, and now I see some modern day reversals, that I don't like either..........But after reading these comments the last few days, and knowing I'm from the "Old School", I've decided to let all you younger guys work this out and resolve a very touchy subject and problem....

I think I'm too set in my ways to discuss these topics....so you guys have at it.....

I do respect all and everyones opinions, the key to my reaction, is how it's presented....

You asked a question in a Civil/professional manner, and I replied........Hope this clarifies my opinion a little better, and hope you and others can right a wrong, better than the "Old Generation" did before.....kapt

gbell
04-13-2007, 09:07 AM
Hopefully there is some "good" that can come out of the Imus situation, and that is the ability to talk about the subjects of race relations, double standards, what's acceptable/unacceptable, etc.

The problem, in my opinion, is when it is swept under the rug and no one talks about it for fear from the PC police (notice I wrote PC, not BC!!). Most people know it's a problem, so why the hysteria when it is discussed? We talk about an underfunded SSI or obviously the war, etc, so why is this subject always "off limits"? It's been beaten to death in the media, but at least it forces some sort of dialogue. If anything, it's a start!

BettorsChat
04-13-2007, 09:27 AM
Let me guess, he's a Republican? :red: :red:

No idea just think he's an idiot for saying what he did. Plus he's boring as shit. Tried listening to him once and about fell asleep.

BettorsChat
04-13-2007, 09:28 AM
all this proved was that blacks have more power then whites and it isn't a racists comment but he would of never got fired if al sharpton didn't stick his nose in it

There's more Hispanics in the USA now than blacks so I guess they will be making waves next?

BettorsChat
04-13-2007, 09:30 AM
10-4 that.Ole Jesse and Al must not realize that when they only represent black people and ony want black people to succeed that they are as racist as anybody.If Steve Harvey(King of Comedy) makes the same comment on his radio show no one blinks an eye.DBL standard.:angry3: :angry3:

Jesse Jackson is a pervert and a hypocrite

BettorsChat
04-13-2007, 09:36 AM
First, the Steve Harvey statement I sent you was b/c you had responded to a "what if" with a "where's the proof Steve Harvey said" and the original poster never said Steve Harvey made a similiar comment as Imus. Substitute Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock. Do you think it's ok for them to say what they do?

I am not offended by what Imus said, but I do see where the Rutgers bball team could/would since it was directed towards them directly. Everyone else is hopping on the bandwagon.

Since he has been doing the same things for 30+ years, I find it odd to now have him removed. The only reason he was is b/c sponsors were leaving. Bottom line.

If I was CBS/MSNBC, I would have not made a decision until after the meeting with the bball team. I would have kept the suspension, and let listeners decide whether to continue to listen or to tune out. See if sponsors would still advertise (not likely) and maybe go from there.

I still wonder though, are you still not seeing the "double standard" that does exist, or do you need more examples?
Just b/c Irvin was fired WELL after his racist comment doesn't mean it was the reason. Who knows? No proof.

And how does firing him "make it right?" Do the words somehow come back? Do you think a nice fat check is on it's way to Rutgers anytime soon from CBS/MSNBC?

Lastly, I wouldn't confuse "ratings" with "influence". Our mothers are only one person, but that had "influence" correct? Viewership/listenership and influence aren't the same thing.

Chris Rock is a comedian so that's different.

Let us know about the check going to Rutgers from CBS/MSNBC.

gbell
04-13-2007, 09:37 AM
There's more Hispanics in the USA now than blacks so I guess they will be making waves next?

They aren't now? Walked inside a Lowes home improvement store recently? Press 1 for English ring a bell?

gbell
04-13-2007, 09:38 AM
Chris Rock is a comedian so that's different.



How, and if so , why?

BettorsChat
04-13-2007, 09:40 AM
They aren't now? Walked inside a Lowes home improvement store recently? Press 1 for English ring a bell?

Really? Do you hate Hispanics? What about blacks?

BettorsChat
04-13-2007, 09:41 AM
How, and if so , why?

When Cris rock says cracker he's joking around.

Now if a white comedian used the N word it would be deceived as being wrong which IMO isn't right. However, this is the life we lead, because of slavery which wasn't right to begin with.

gbell
04-13-2007, 09:42 AM
Really? Do you hate Hispanics? What about blacks?
Where did I say/write I hate blacks or Mexicans? You have issues.

gbell
04-13-2007, 09:46 AM
When Cris rock says cracker he's joking around.

Now if a white comedian used the N word it would be deceived as being wrong which IMO isn't right. However, this is the life we lead, because of slavery which wasn't right to begin with.

So you would prefer to accept this double standard then to open dialogues and possibly change? Since you say it's ok for black comedians to say/do one thing, but not ok for white comedians to do the same.
And Imus wasn't "joking" around?
I'm sure next you'll have me supporting slavery too.

vols fan
04-13-2007, 10:52 AM
No idea just think he's an idiot for saying what he did. Plus he's boring as shit. Tried listening to him once and about fell asleep.
I think we all agree he is an idiot for what he said and maybe he should have been fired,but I think the argument is cbs and msnbc should fire him for what he said without the influence of jesse and al.I heard a report this morning that one of the parents said an apology is not good enough.That tells me they just want to get paid.When they see jesse show up all they see is dollar signs.

TheRook
04-13-2007, 10:56 AM
I think we all agree he is an idiot for what he said and maybe he should have been fired,but I think the argument is cbs and msnbc should fire him for what he said without the influence of jesse and al.I heard a report this morning that one of the parents said an apology is not good enough.That tells me they just want to get paid.When they see jesse show up all they see is dollar signs.


I agree with that 100%

wayne1218
04-13-2007, 11:15 AM
A couple things that stand out to me. I was never a fan of or against Imus. I knew who he was and heard him a few times but that was it.

I really can't believe he got fired for what he said. There is no doubt that what he said was wrong because whether you think it did or should have, it obviously hurt/affected some people in the wrong way. I saw an interview on Cold Pizza this morning where the guy said "Hey, there is no doubt the comment was wrong but what you had here was a 66 year old white man trying to be hip-hop and use the street, hood and rap lingo that african americans use daily. It came off horrible but i don't think he said it with premeditated intent on hurting people".

I tend to agree with that 100%. The problem in all the arguments here is to me, people seem to be taking their sides based on whether or not they liked Imus to begin with. I could quote many posts while reading here that show me their dislike for Imus played a big part in how they think this should be treated.

IMO there is NO DOUBT that there is a double standard out there with talk of race. Considering a black man can say what he wants about his race and a white man can't without being a racist is unthinkable to me at times. It doesn't matter to me what your skin color is. A racial slur is a racial slur, no matter who says it.

What happened to "Rehab"? Anybody??

A black man on Grey's Anatomy can make gay slurs, which is another hot topic in this country and he does it twice, not once. Why was he simply sent to counseling while keeping his job when the gay & lesbian alliance was on the war path??

Michael Richards can't even be compared (IMO). What he did/said was just a total anger filled racist rant. There is no explaning that one or making excuses for it. The comedy act ended when that rant started and he went on and on and on.

I also can't believe CBS fired him and didn't do it right away if they were going to. It wasn't because of ethical beliefs on their part because they would have done it right away. It was financial pressure and nothing more.

We could discuss others who have done much more and received much less of a punishment. If you hate Imus, you think this is great. I dont like him and i don't hate him but to me, "Nappy haired hoes" are 3 words that didn't by any means deserve a guy who has been on radio for 30 years to get fired. I have seen him apologize to everyone and yes, i know he "Has to" but he seems pretty sincere to me through this whole thing.

The fact they fired him during a great cause while raising a ton of money for kids was almost just as tasteless imo.

TheRook
04-13-2007, 11:25 AM
A couple things that stand out to me. I was never a fan of or against Imus. I knew who he was and heard him a few times but that was it.

I really can't believe he got fired for what he said. There is no doubt that what he said was wrong because whether you think it did or should have, it obviously hurt/affected some people in the wrong way. I saw an interview on Cold Pizza this morning where the guy said "Hey, there is no doubt the comment was wrong but what you had here was a 66 year old white man trying to be hip-hop and use the street, hood and rap lingo that african americans use daily. It came off horrible but i don't think he said it with premeditated intent on hurting people".

I tend to agree with that 100%. The problem in all the arguments here is to me, people seem to be taking their sides based on whether or not they liked Imus to begin with. I could quote many posts while reading here that show me their dislike for Imus played a big part in how they think this should be treated.

IMO there is NO DOUBT that there is a double standard out there with talk of race. Considering a black man can say what he wants about his race and a white man can't without being a racist is unthinkable to me at times. It doesn't matter to me what your skin color is. A racial slur is a racial slur, no matter who says it.

What happened to "Rehab"? Anybody??

A black man on Grey's Anatomy can make gay slurs, which is another hot topic in this country and he does it twice, not once. Why was he simply sent to counseling while keeping his job when the gay & lesbian alliance was on the war path??

Michael Richards can't even be compared (IMO). What he did/said was just a total anger filled racist rant. There is no explaning that one or making excuses for it. The comedy act ended when that rant started and he went on and on and on.

I also can't believe CBS fired him and didn't do it right away if they were going to. It wasn't because of ethical beliefs on their part because they would have done it right away. It was financial pressure and nothing more.

We could discuss others who have done much more and received much less of a punishment. If you hate Imus, you think this is great. I dont like him and i don't hate him but to me, "Nappy haired hoes" are 3 words that didn't by any means deserve a guy who has been on radio for 30 years to get fired. I have seen him apologize to everyone and yes, i know he "Has to" but he seems pretty sincere to me through this whole thing.

The fact they fired him during a great cause while raising a ton of money for kids was almost just as tasteless imo.


that is soooooooo well put

TheRook
04-13-2007, 11:28 AM
When the sponsers started to stray after they got pressure from the African Amercian community, that sent up a red flag......CBS probably did the right thing with the suspension and doing it AFTER the radio thon was the right move....but then MSNBC did they're thing, and it was a no win situation for CBS right then and there.

I think if they were going to do it, it should have been done Monday after the radio-thon not yesterday.

I agree Wayne...very classless on CBS's part.

If MSNBC doesn't pull the plug, CBS stands firm IMO on what they were intending to do which was just suspend him, which I think would be fair.

It went toally and completely overboard, and as I was afraid of....it cost a man his career for now.

Ldawg
04-13-2007, 12:15 PM
:gives: I just as soon they threw the Whole Lot of them in the shit can .... Imus, Stern ,Mancow and Lindbaugh . Matter of fact I wish it had been Lindbaugh that pill poppin' Bastage .... :blah:


Give me Paul Harvey anyday ... and now for Page 2 ! :red:

Lsufan
04-13-2007, 03:53 PM
:gives: I just as soon they threw the Whole Lot of them in the shit can .... Imus, Stern ,Mancow and Lindbaugh . Matter of fact I wish it had been Lindbaugh that pill poppin' Bastage .... :blah:


Give me Paul Harvey anyday ... and now for Page 2 ! :red:
http://tonova.typepad.com/thesuddencurve/images/limbaugh_oxycontin.jpg

mgm1977
04-13-2007, 03:57 PM
There's more Hispanics in the USA now than blacks so I guess they will be making waves next?


thats my opinion its a victory for african americans it proves nothing firing him he has a lot of money and someone will hire him eventually.so really what did all this prove al sharpton is a powerful man and that the hole public fears him.

GOLDENGREEK
04-14-2007, 04:14 AM
Chris Rock is a comedian so that's different.

Let us know about the check going to Rutgers from CBS/MSNBC.
STERN AND IMUS COULD EASILY BE CONSIDERED COMEDIANS ESECIALLY STERN

KazDog
04-14-2007, 05:11 AM
So you would prefer to accept this double standard then to open dialogues and possibly change? Since you say it's ok for black comedians to say/do one thing, but not ok for white comedians to do the same.
And Imus wasn't "joking" around?
I'm sure next you'll have me supporting slavery too.

Being a comedian is part of creative licensing. People understand that going in. It's why comedians are considered part of the 'performing arts.'. Being a radio talk show host like Rush Limbaugh or Imus does not give you such creative license. You can't compare the two. People listen to comedians as a form of escapism but when people listen to Imus or Limbaugh, they are more apt to believe and ingest their comments as factual and truthful. They have a much greater influence on public perception. When they make racist, hate filled comments, it only fuels division between whites and blacks in this country.

White people who say, "why is there a double standard for blacks and whites?," have not asked themselves one simple question. When were white people slaves in this country and not allowed many freedoms that a certain class of citizens are allowed? How often have white people been discriminated against comparatively?

Now, as far as Imus being fired. I don't believe the penalty fit the crime. His suspension and subsequent apology was enough. Advertisers pulling out was ultimately his demise, for better or worse.

KAZ

savage1
04-14-2007, 10:49 AM
Being a comedian is part of creative licensing. People understand that going in. It's why comedians are considered part of the 'performing arts.'. Being a radio talk show host like Rush Limbaugh or Imus does not give you such creative license. You can't compare the two. People listen to comedians as a form of escapism but when people listen to Imus or Limbaugh, they are more apt to believe and ingest their comments as factual and truthful. They have a much greater influence on public perception. When they make racist, hate filled comments, it only fuels division between whites and blacks in this country.

White people who say, "why is there a double standard for blacks and whites?," have not asked themselves one simple question. When were white people slaves in this country and not allowed many freedoms that a certain class of citizens are allowed? How often have white people been discriminated against comparatively?

Now, as far as Imus being fired. I don't believe the penalty fit the crime. His suspension and subsequent apology was enough. Advertisers pulling out was ultimately his demise, for better or worse.

KAZ

Although I agree with a lot of what you say, I do think that in this instance at least, that if there are racial repercussions because of what Imus said, they are NOT because of what Imus said per se but because of the attention brought to it by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
Comments like Imus made are made and heard a zillion times a day by every day regular folks in their every day talk;some of it is meant in jest and some(if a person is a real racist) is made seriously.
My point is that if the remarks made by Imus were simply considered in the same way that everyday folks talk among themselves,ie just words emanating from someone's mouth,, they would have been heard and then quickly forgotten, and people would have gone back to their everyday lives.
Conversely, when in this case a few folks of the Black Community make a HUGE deal out of it and broadcast their feelings all over the airwaves, that in effect let a lot more people know about it(remember there are zillions of folks who don't watch Imus and would not have know of the remarks).
If one believes/considers that the Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world have a profound influence on the thinking of the public in this case Black Community, then I suggest that they must shoulder a good deal of the blame for any increased racial hatred which might ensue because of the remarks made.
When you consider that Imus was fired because in effect too many sponsors pulled out because of not wanting to be associated with someone like Imus who might now be perceived as a racist, it pisses of a lot of the folks who enjoyed listening to him, many of whom are White.
Many of these people who are angry about the show being cancelled will blame Sharpton and Jackson, both Black, for the show's cancellation, and if anything those feelings will carry over to the Black Community in general.
Thus, in my opinion we have a situation where a dumb, ill founded remark could was blown way out of proportion to its worth, and that those individuals mentioned above as stated earlier are the ones who ultimately are responsible for any increased racial tensions and hatred.

gbell
04-14-2007, 12:20 PM
White people who say, "why is there a double standard for blacks and whites?," have not asked themselves one simple question. When were white people slaves in this country and not allowed many freedoms that a certain class of citizens are allowed? How often have white people been discriminated against comparatively?
KAZ

So according to your "logic:, let me pose a question. At what point are the "crimes of the past" sufficiently paid in full? What happened in the past happened. No one is trying to deny that. But to use it as a crutch for every future generation is insane. Will there be a point in time, when according to Kaz, enough "reparations" have been made to pay for white guilt? What is the number of white people(whatever Kaz # that is) that need to be "comparatively" discriminated against for things to be even?

KazDog
04-14-2007, 12:38 PM
Actions by past generations validate comments like this that racism and discrimination continue to exist in this country. To answer your question, it can't be paid in full. And should NEVER be forgotten. I don't believe blacks should be 'given' anything they don't deserve. But racist comments by public figures only make matters worse and cause us to go backwards and not forwards.

KAZ

gbell
04-14-2007, 01:02 PM
Actions by past generations validate comments like this that racism and discrimination continue to exist in this country. To answer your question, it can't be paid in full. And should NEVER be forgotten. I don't believe blacks should be 'given' anything they don't deserve. But racist comments by public figures only make matters worse and cause us to go backwards and not forwards.

KAZ

Do past actions validate his comments, or does the coarsening of society, as well as the "pity" party CONSTANTLY being played, make things go backwards?

I haven't heard or read of ONE person who has vaildated his comments and agreed with them. Nor have I ever heard anyone deny the existence of slavery.

And since you are ok with the double standard as long as it's used for "creatice license", who decides what is "creative" or not? I find most shows on TV are expressions of "creative license", so according to you, all TV shows can use the same language heard on A LOT of music. (regardless of genre)

And lastly, since you don't believe blacks ( or anyone else for that matter I assume), shouldn't be give anything they don't deserve, is it safe to assume you don't believe in affirmative action, quotas, and scholarships based soley on race?

KazDog
04-14-2007, 01:13 PM
So I will ask you this, since you posed the question, At what point are the "crimes of the past" sufficiently paid in full? ....and since you like asking questions.

If you lived in an all black community and you and your family was the only white people in the community. And one day they came and took your two children hostage and murdered one of them. At what point would you or your family or your future generations of families feel they have been paid in full for those crimes or EVER TRUST those black people? Esp. if future generations of black people in that community continue to make derogatory remarks about your family....Assuming that they acknowledge the crimes had been committed.

And I said that PAST generations actions validate comments such as those made by IMUS that racism still exists. I never said people today are denying slavery exsisted...

KAZ

BettorsChat
04-14-2007, 01:16 PM
Where did I say/write I hate blacks or Mexicans? You have issues.

You don't have to say it in order for one to wonder by the way you type and actions on this forum.

BettorsChat
04-14-2007, 01:17 PM
So you would prefer to accept this double standard then to open dialogues and possibly change? Since you say it's ok for black comedians to say/do one thing, but not ok for white comedians to do the same.
And Imus wasn't "joking" around?
I'm sure next you'll have me supporting slavery too.

Why do you even come to this site? You're the most negative person and most argutive person on this site.

gbell
04-14-2007, 01:19 PM
So I will ask you this, since you posed the question, At what point are the "crimes of the past" sufficiently paid in full? ....and since you like asking questions.

If you lived in an all black community and you and your family was the only white people in the community. And one day they came and took your two children hostage and murdered one of them. At what point would you or your family or your future generations of families feel they have been paid in full for those crimes or EVER TRUST those black people? Esp. if future generations of black people in that community continue to make derogatory remarks about your family....Assuming that they acknowledge the crimes had been committed.

And I said that PAST generations actions validate comments such as those made by IMUS that racism still exists. I never said people today are denying slavery exsisted...

KAZ
Should I answer with "No, I would hate every single black person I encounter for the rest of my life, even though they had NOTHING to do with the original crime, and hope that all my future generations would go on to hate every single black person for the rest of our lives"? Makes sense Kaz, nice analogy.
Nice to know that "nappy headed" and "ho" are terms directly tied to slavery.
Now I have answered your, I am awaiting answers to mine.

BettorsChat
04-14-2007, 01:20 PM
[QUOTE=wayne1218]A couple things that stand out to me. I was never a fan of or against Imus. I knew who he was and heard him a few times but that was it.

I really can't believe he got fired for what he said. There is no doubt that what he said was wrong because whether you think it did or should have, it obviously hurt/affected some people in the wrong way. I saw an interview on Cold Pizza this morning where the guy said "Hey, there is no doubt the comment was wrong but what you had here was a 66 year old white man trying to be hip-hop and use the street, hood and rap lingo that african americans use daily. It came off horrible but i don't think he said it with premeditated intent on hurting people".

I tend to agree with that 100%. The problem in all the arguments here is to me, people seem to be taking their sides based on whether or not they liked Imus to begin with. I could quote many posts while reading here that show me their dislike for Imus played a big part in how they think this should be treated.
QUOTE]

Being hip hop by making a comment is not the same as what IMUS said. Calling them Napy haired HO's is not hip hop IMO.

BettorsChat
04-14-2007, 01:21 PM
STERN AND IMUS COULD EASILY BE CONSIDERED COMEDIANS ESECIALLY STERN

Stern yes

IMUS that I don't know

gbell
04-14-2007, 01:22 PM
Why do you even come to this site? You're the most negative person and most argutive person on this site.
I am not "arguing" with Kaz, but having a dialogue, which I hope is a positive that will result from this Imus fiasco. Opinions now equal negativity? You wrote I hate Mexicans Mr. positive. Maybe you should pay more attention to your catchphrase about common sense?

BettorsChat
04-14-2007, 01:24 PM
http://www.larryelder.com/

This guy was on Larry King last night and had some good insight on the subject. And was talking about double standards etc.

gbell
04-14-2007, 01:24 PM
Being hip hop by making a comment is not the same as what IMUS said. Calling them Napy haired HO's is not hip hop IMO.

Where do you think he got that phrase? Ho is not used in hip-hop? Is there any other language that is in hip hop that could be considered racist or offensive?

BettorsChat
04-14-2007, 01:25 PM
I am not "arguing" with Kaz, but having a dialogue, which I hope is a positive that will result from this Imus fiasco. Opinions now equal negativity? You wrote I hate Mexicans Mr. positive. Maybe you should pay more attention to your catchphrase about common sense?

Don't put words in my mouth or you will be gone. I asked you if you hated Hispanics not mexicans.

gbell
04-14-2007, 01:28 PM
Really? Do you hate Hispanics? What about blacks?
You are correct, I confused Mexicans with Hispanics, so I am wrong. My apologies.But I don't "hate" Hispanice, Mexicans, or Blacks, for the record so you don't have to ask or possibly accuse again.

BettorsChat
04-14-2007, 01:35 PM
You are correct, I confused Mexicans with Hispanics, so I am wrong. My apologies.But I don't "hate" Hispanice, Mexicans, or Blacks, for the record so you don't have to ask or possibly accuse again.

Publically acuse? I asked you a question that's not an accusation.

And you never answered my question about why you even come to this site.

jcindaville
04-14-2007, 02:05 PM
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jcindaville
04-14-2007, 02:07 PM
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jcindaville
04-14-2007, 02:08 PM
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BettorsChat
04-14-2007, 02:08 PM
JC you had a rain out yesterday in the MLB Contest so you need to make that game up

jcindaville
04-14-2007, 02:09 PM
JC you had a rain out yesterday in the MLB Contest so you need to make that game up


I put in the Dodgers today boss

KazDog
04-14-2007, 02:19 PM
Your problem Gbell, is that you don't put yourself in the shoes of a black person. Quit trying to make excuses for the actions of white people by saying, well this black comedian says it or this TV show says it, so that makes it OK for a white radio show host to say it. It's wrong, plain and simple. In the eyes of black people, when a prominent white person says something like that, it only adds fuel to a fire that's been burning in this country for many years. Blame Imus for his comments, and blame white people for not allowing black people to forgive and trust us for past actions. You keep trying to justify comments like this as a double standard that makes it OK for him to make such ignorant, racist statements. I was OK with his apology, and don't think he should be fired, but black people were not. And they have a right.

And your statement is ridiculous.....Of course you would NEVER forgive or forget if your children were murdered and taken hostage by a bunch of black people.....

KAZ

TheRook
04-14-2007, 04:24 PM
Your problem Gbell, is that you don't put yourself in the shoes of a black person. Quit trying to make excuses for the actions of white people by saying, well this black comedian says it or this TV show says it, so that makes it OK for a white radio show host to say it. It's wrong, plain and simple. In the eyes of black people, when a prominent white person says something like that, it only adds fuel to a fire that's been burning in this country for many years. Blame Imus for his comments, and blame white people for not allowing black people to forgive and trust us for past actions. You keep trying to justify comments like this as a double standard that makes it OK for him to make such ignorant, racist statements. I was OK with his apology, and don't think he should be fired, but black people were not. And they have a right.

And your statement is ridiculous.....Of course you would NEVER forgive or forget if your children were murdered and taken hostage by a bunch of black people.....

KAZ



I don't know if this is good or bad.....but I agree with 100% of everything you said on this topic. Maybe it was me thinking it but not willing to say it...but wow Kaz....you are right on the money IMO.

Damn I never thought i'd say that last sentence....lol